Rupp and Salazar Relationship

Platforms wrote:

not quit the 72" wrote:

AlSal is not close to 6'. He's at best 5'9.75"

His platform shoe disguise certainly fooled you.

Salazar is 5'11. I looked it up.

luther blissett wrote:

we went from cool and interesting independent types like shorter, pre, rogers to rupp, who has as much personality as a box of rocks. i'm concerned for the health of our sport with young people when the only runner they can look up to is someone who was basically grown in a lab and is still connected to alsal's teet.

Oh, come on. Stop being so negative. There are plenty of vibrant and outgoing American elites that young runners can look up to.

Glass half empty dude wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

we went from cool and interesting independent types like shorter, pre, rogers to rupp, who has as much personality as a box of rocks. i'm concerned for the health of our sport with young people when the only runner they can look up to is someone who was basically grown in a lab and is still connected to alsal's teet.

Oh, come on. Stop being so negative. There are plenty of vibrant and outgoing American elites that young runners can look up to.

Incorrect; all of the elites are terrified to say anything other than, "I gave it my best effort."

[quote]Brianruns10 wrote:

Follow up question: Suppose for the sake of arguing, that it was proven that Salazar was still coaching Rupp, post ban. What would the consequences be? Extending the duration of Salazar's ban? More to the point, would Rupp also be liable to some kind of sanction for accepting coaching.

Yes, he will be suspended for up to 2 years according to the rules for associating with a banned coach. Google the rules, it’s a a pretty easy search, lazy bum.

On the positive side, Rupp is loyal to the man who turned him from a soccer player to the US’ best ever long distance runner. He has never turned on Alberto even through the bad years/press. He hasn’t used him and then turned on him later as many have. Gotta respect Rupp’s loyalty!

what and who you are loyal to is every bit as important as being loyal in it of itself

Starting to like Rupp more wrote:

On the positive side, Rupp is loyal to the man who turned him from a soccer player to the US’ best ever long distance runner. He has never turned on Alberto even through the bad years/press. He hasn’t used him and then turned on him later as many have. Gotta respect Rupp’s loyalty!

It is a sort of loyalty that I would not wish upon anyone. Blindly standing by Salazar has utterly isolated Rupp from his generation and his fellow competitors. He has had astounding success, but somehow it garners him virtually no ardent fans.

to be honest, does rupp even need salazar anymore when it comes to workouts? salazar has been coaching rupp for years now. rupp could just ask himself "what would salazar tell me to run?" and guess it right within 80% accuracy. and also perhaps rupp might even run faster without salazar because maybe he's an even better coach. nobody knows rupp more than rupp. at the end of the day, who cares really. he's about to get his ass kicked at the olympics

This is the kind of post you created for the running community. I hope you get lots of clicks and are so proud of yourselves.

"It is a sort of loyalty that I would not wish upon anyone. Blindly standing by Salazar has utterly isolated Rupp from his generation and his fellow competitors. He has had astounding success, but somehow it garners him virtually no ardent fans."

Baloney, Rupp was not isolated by Salazar. Rupp was a decent and reserved runner who did everything right, running four years at Oregon, developing slowly and ultimately achieving his goals. He was isolated by the bizarre culture here at LetsRun mostly due to Rojo who hated Nike and anything and anyone associated with Nike. This of course created a negative feedback loop. I have no idea why Rojo has been so vindictive his whole time here, only he can answer that question.

Rupp had an astounding career and perhaps is one of the greatest distance runners in US history. Rojo created a culture on LR where people commonly denigrated Rupp no matter what his accomplishments were. And he loved long threads that were anti-Nike and anti-Rupp. How about not LetsRun but LetsTelltheTruth about the agenda of this site.

[quote]It started here wrote:

Baloney, Rupp was not isolated by Salazar [wrong]. Rupp was a decent and reserved runner who did everything right, running four years at Oregon [he never graduated], developing slowly and ultimately achieving his goals [fool; he is the HS 5k record holder]. He was isolated by the bizarre culture here at LetsRun [he and AlSal isolated themselves] mostly due to Rojo who hated Nike [why is loving nike a "requirement"] and anything and anyone associated with Nike [so, what?]. This of course created a negative feedback loop [incorrect]. I have no idea why Rojo has been so vindictive his whole time here, only he can answer that question [first you answer: why do you love Nike so much?].

Rupp had an astounding career [fake TUES + drugs] and perhaps is one of the greatest distance runners in US history [ahem, nope]. Rojo created a culture on LR where people commonly denigrated Rupp no matter what his accomplishments were [that is all in your mind]. And he loved long threads that were anti-Nike and anti-Rupp [so?]. How about not LetsRun but LetsTelltheTruth about the agenda of this site [you first: what is your agenda, Nike Shill?].

[Don't make excuses for banned cheaters like Salazar. How Rupp was left free is a mystery.]

This anti-Nike (and by extension, anti-Rupp) stance seems a little surprising given the BroJos seem died-in-the-wool, multi-generational GOP'ers - and given Phil Knight and Nike Employees preferentially showered Republicans with millions more in donations.

It started here wrote:

... He was isolated by the bizarre culture here at LetsRun mostly due to Rojo who hated Nike and anything and anyone associated with Nike.

...And he loved long threads that were anti-Nike and anti-Rupp. How about not LetsRun but LetsTelltheTruth about the agenda of this site.

REAL. wrote:

"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone."

Anyone who hasn't doped and lied about it, step up and take a throw.

There will be plenty

This doesn't necessarily apply to this thread and I'm a Rupp fan but if Salazar was banned using a prohibited method by USADA then who was he using this method on beside Magness? There is evidence that Ritz and Erdmann took these transfusion. It is very hard to believe that Mo and Galen did not. And if they did then they are in violation. I know that they have never tested positive but....

This is a mental illness, not politics.

Everything you said in this post is a lie.

this is the end game.

the powers that be ruin the sport,

the media butchers the sport

the testers track your every movement and monitor your genetics, blood and intake

the powers that be will moitor al sal's communications so that he does not violate the rules.

your corporate interests like nike run slave factories, and go berserk with their power meglomania.

the budgets go to admin, for the mediocre s that bicker.

your drug testing wada, runs a test lab good old boys club, mafia, dealing out quid quo pro everything.

all of the above is not focused on the actual sport and athletes, or very little there of.

such is the education and mindset, that allows for all of that.

people are raised without focus, nor practicality,

you have a good thing like sport, and you have to screw it up.

with your incompetence, inadequate ego,

i'm going to the gym. screw it.

pull out of organized sports, what a waste of time.

Come on Rojo wrote:

Everything you said in this post is a lie.

Salazar has not been banned? Provide your link proving he was reinstated.

Rupp graduated from Oregon? Provide your link proving he did. (Not the dumb link from spring of 2009 claiming he graduated, while ignoring that Rupp said he needed a lot more credits to finish than he would be allowed to take in a single term; about 25 credits to go, and one term to do it to be a 2009 graduate.)

Rupp was not isolated by Salazar? Then why did Salazar always share a room with him during training vacations, and before running events?

Rupp developed "slowly"? How does a slow developer set the High School 5k record?

You are a Nike shill. Proven by you.

PS. I am not Rojo.

Obviously no emails/texts. They are definitely talking in person.

The coaching ban is pretty stupid. Athletes at that caliber do not need verbal motivation the day of a race. Athletes mostly just need a coach to write workouts.

Alberto is innocent btw