Rupp and Salazar Relationship

AlSal is not close to 6'. He's at best 5'9.75"

Awesome that a guy who decides to keep his life private, is getting a bunch of hate thrown on him by people on a message board who choose to remain anonymous.

Cain's performances cratered after not that long of Salazar but she achieved plenty prior to injuries and ill health.

800 1:59.51 American high school record still standing

1000 American high school record

1500 4:04 American high school record broken narrowly by Efraimson

3000 8:5x American high school record

5000 15:45 then American high school record? definitely American trials qualifier, though

American indoor championship at 1500m at 17.

World Junior 3000m championship at 18.

World Championships 1500m finalist at 17

Brianruns10 wrote:

Random Schmo wrote:

Lol, relax. He deserves public criticism... and scrutiny. He stayed with Salazar when he knew Salazar was doing shady sh*t. I know from experience, it takes one week of interaction at most with that guy to know he's batsh*t crazy and has trouble written all over him. I don't respect Rupp and neither should you.

I agree. Even other NOP members can attest to the fact that Rupp was elevated to a level of privilege beyond theirs, and many times he and Salazar would disappear together. Rupp's secretive nature has always been off putting, and now that so much is coming out about Salazar, that intense privacy makes more sense. I frankly cannot imagine HOW Rupp could be clean.

just reading insane posts such as this and you can see why Rupp keeps to himself and is not on social media. the level of outright jealousy towards him is crazy.

as for him being "clean" - he's not exactly running 2:02 with all the doped up africans. the progression has been as expected for his talent and none of his times (even the 26:44 10K) would indicate doping. but LRC is not interested in facts so carry on........

lidfdhj wrote:

Rupp has not announced a new coach or hinted at the possibility of seeking out a new one. It feels like the logical decision would be to just have Pete Julian coach him.

My question is this... Alberto is banned -- can't show up at meets or hold practices with athletes etc...

But Alberto and Galen are presumably very close and are basically neighbors. Who's to stop Alberto from continuing to write all of Galen's workouts? They wouldn't even need to be over text or email. Couldn't Galen just go over to Alberto's house for dinner and a beer a couple times a month and Alberto writes out a two-week segment on a legal pad? How can you really prevent this from happening / enforce this ban if you can't actually ban two people from being social friends with one another?

i think you answered your own question - he'll continue to be coached by AlSal. hopefully he comes back to dominate the trials (likely) and medal in Tokyo (gonna be tough).

Jonathan Gault wrote:

The ban is impossible to enforce -- even if they got Rupp's phone records and saw that he was calling Salazar, they could just say that they were talking as friends (and who's to say they weren't).

Under the WADA Code, "just saying" is not enough. The Code specifically says: "The burden shall be on the Athlete or other Person to establish that any association with Athlete Support Personnel...is not in a professional or sport related capacity."

In other words, any association with a dirty coach is presumed to be dirty, unless the athlete shows that it is clean.

lidfdhj wrote:

Couldn't Galen just go over to Alberto's house for dinner and a beer a couple times a month

Rupp doesn't drink. He would never put something useless like beer in his body. The guy has no bad habits and is as dull as paper.

That's why I am a fan.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Salazar is banned from coaching.

Rupp can hire him as an advisor.

Enough said.

Incorrect.

Salazar cannot provide anything related to athletics to Rupp. Coach = Advisor / Guru / Training Plans / Running Friend / Masseuse / Pharmacist / Stop Watch Holder / etc. Rupp and Salazar would both get lifetime bans from the sport if they tried any one of these.

Brianruns10 wrote:

Follow up question: Suppose for the sake of arguing, that it was proven that Salazar was still coaching Rupp, post ban. What would the consequences be? Extending the duration of Salazar's ban? More to the point, would Rupp also be liable to some kind of sanction for accepting coaching from Salazar?

Under the WADA Code, there are ten categories of "Anti-Doping Rule Violations." These include failing a drug test, using drugs, skipping a drug test, or working with banned coaches. So if Rupp got caught working with Salazar, it would be as if he failed a drug test, was caught taking drugs, or refused a drug test. He would likely be banned. For Salazar, it would be another violation, and his ban would likely be extended.

You can read the details here:

Rupp Fan Boy wrote:

Rupp doesn't drink. He would never put something useless like beer in his body. The guy has no bad habits and is as dull as paper.

Incorrect.

(Rupp beer in hand. Centro hiding his beer under a cap. Neither one shaved that morning.)

Does anyone know the exact definition of a coach that USADA would use to determine if Alberto violates his ban on not being allowed to coach?

What exactly is USADA's punishment for Rupp if Alberto still coaches him?

Rupp Fan Boy wrote:

Does anyone know the exact definition of a coach that USADA would use to determine if Alberto violates his ban on not being allowed to coach?

What exactly is USADA's punishment for Rupp if Alberto still coaches him?

Coach = Advisor / Guru / Training Plans / Running Friend / Masseuse / Pharmacist / Stop Watch Holder / etc.

Rupp and Salazar would both get lifetime bans from the sport if they tried any one of these.

inn korrect wrote:

Salazar cannot provide anything related to athletics to Rupp. Coach = Advisor / Guru / Training Plans / Running Friend / Masseuse / Pharmacist / Stop Watch Holder / etc. Rupp and Salazar would both get lifetime bans from the sport if they tried any one of these.

Inn is korrect. Here's the comment on "Prohibited Association" from the WADA Code:

Athletes and other Persons must not work with coaches, trainers, physicians or other Athlete Support Personnel who are Ineligible on account of an anti-doping rule violation...

Some examples of the types of association which are prohibited include:

1) obtaining training, strategy, technique, nutrition or medical advice;

2) obtaining therapy, treatment or prescriptions;

3) providing any bodily products for analysis; or

4) allowing the Athlete Support Person to serve as an agent or representative.

Prohibited association need not involve any form of compensation

I'm sure Al will find a grey area to walk into regarding his "ban."

not quit the 72" wrote:

AlSal is not close to 6'. He's at best 5'9.75"

5'11" actually. You're just used to seeing him struggling around at meets with a backpack full of PEDs making him all hunched over.

Random Schmo wrote:

JAH wrote:

Such disrespect is uncalled for. He either shows what he can at the Trials or fails. Shitting US current best marathoner for his reserved personality is way worse than even applauding Mary the Cain.

Lol, relax. He deserves public criticism... and scrutiny. He stayed with Salazar when he knew Salazar was doing shady sh*t. I know from experience, it takes one week of interaction at most with that guy to know he's batsh*t crazy and has trouble written all over him. I don't respect Rupp and neither should you.

Why would he want to share his life with a bunch of psychopaths who are just going to critique his every move on a forum with other psychos. Just watch him run and shut up, just because he's fast doesn't mean he has to share every intimate detail of his life so you can sleep at night knowing he's not doping.

Shunning - WADA approved and USADA tested!

Not just for fringe religions! Don't just show them the door, show them your back!

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FFF wrote:

Jonathan, don't forget to ask about the cheatershoes Rupp was wearing at the 2016 Trials.

I was on the turn about 400 meters from the finish, and every time he went by we were all talking about the "trainers" he was wearing, we had theories floating around. We only saw a few other pair of those shoes in both fields - did anyone know what the heck those were?

Hi Kara!

not quit the 72" wrote:

AlSal is not close to 6'. He's at best 5'9.75"

His platform shoe disguise certainly fooled you.