Take Scholarship from D2 or attempt to walk on at D1?

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4 years ago 11/08/2019 10:33pm EST

re: DoICommit?

OP, consider D3. Sounds like you have the grades and test scores for consideration. A top notch D3 school will have plenty of financial aid. Your times won’t help admission but D3 may provide a better experience. I had a chance to walk on to an in state middle tier P5 program with better times but chose D3 for a wholistic collegiate experience. Let’s say you drop four seconds and run 2:00 this year. That gets you DFL in a middle heat of a small but decent D3 meet. (I ran in the Midwest so the D3 competition was pretty fierce.). But 2:00 would make you one of the fastest women in D1.

Pick a school based on the academic/financial fit and then consider the program/coach. Do their athletes regress, flatline, or progress?

Don’t be the dumba$$ on IG who has, “D1 athlete” in their bio.

4 years ago 11/10/2019 6:42pm EST

re: josh1988

It seriously depends on the school, the state, and the degree program you are pursuing. For example, Eastern Washington University is D1, but by all measures (retention / graduation rate, SAT scores and GPA of admitted students, student loan default rate, US News college rankings) is weaker than D2 Western Washington University. Some big D1 schools like the University of Washington are highly ranked because of their graduate programs and research facilities but have 500+ student freshmen classes that are basically "weed-out" sections for competitive majors like computer science or engineering and are mostly taught by grad students. Even good students (3.5 GPA)can't always get into their desired majors and either have to transfer out or change their majors. Finally, the location of the school is a huge factor. To illustrate, D1 Washington State University is basically surrounded by wheat fields as far as the eye can see, but D2 WWU is near miles of forested trails near the water.

3 years ago 02/08/2021 3:25pm EST

re: DoICommit?

The D2 that really wanted me was only a mile or so from the D1 a lot of the guys I went to HS with were going.

I chose against it, because I didn't want college to be high school V2, and I was also a bit ashamed to be considering the D2 down the street, etc.

So I went to a D1 far, far away, and flamed out after a couple years when the incoming runners continued to be faster than I was. I don't know the point here, other than, I should have gone to the D2.

3 years ago 02/08/2021 3:29pm EST

re: D2 wanna-be

99% of D2 schools are terrible academically.

3 years ago 02/08/2021 3:38pm EST

re: DoICommit?

Take the scholarship. You'll graduate debt free, still have a team experience, and get to make the travel squad sooner. I was a D1 walk-on and missed on all that, I'd go the D2/D3 route if I could do it all over again.

3 years ago 02/08/2021 3:56pm EST

re: DoICommit?

DoICommit? wrote:
I have run 2:04/800M 4:40/1600M 10:50/3200M and 17:15/XC
D1 Team Wants:
1:57-4:30-9:30-15:15ish depending on track accolades
They tell me I need to at least hit one standard for a walk on spot but if I hit two of them I am much much much more likely to be successful.
My only valid options at this point are looking like the 800/1600 combo due to the falloff in times at distance.
Their slowest MD guy runs 1:58/800 4:15/1500 and their fastest runs 1:49/800 and 3:43/1500
I have about 1/2 tuition for academics at this school but no athletic scholarship offer for obvious reasons haha.
D2 Team Wants:
2:14-5:00-11:15-18:00
Their slowest MD guy runs 2:16/800-5:00/1500 and their fastest runs 1:58/800-4:10/1500
I would also most likely start out as a scoring runner on the XC team.
At this school I would go 1/2 ride on academic and 1/4 on athletic +FAFSA this college is looking really cheap.
What should I do? Should I commit to the meh D2 college or try and work my butt off for a walk on spot at a pretty good D1 school?

I wonder what choice OP made.

His times were not noteworthy

As for fastest runners at a typical D1 school, 1:49/800 and 3:43/1500 sounds about right when I was running, noting that some D1 schools will have faster runners.

I was watching an old video the other day, and knew a couple of the runners in the 60m indoor, yet had only heard of the 800m runners in that meet. Since I was an 800m guy, I thought that was ironic, except that my college career was over almost before it started.

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