In light of the mounting evidence, Trump's impeachment is a foregone conclusion.

Is America ready for its first gay president?

Mayor Pete is the only candidate that has shown this level of increase of support. He is on the rise. He is smart articulate and has mainstream political values.

But will a number of blacks stay home and not vote because he is gay?

Most other gay haters would vote Republican anyway so it makes no difference with them.

An investigation by law enforcement agencies requires evidence to justify such an investigation; no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens existed so no US agency was investigating them. But this was irrelevant to Trump, who has no understanding of or regard for democratic processes. He therefore set out to pressure a foreign power into an initiative aimed at damaging a political opponent at home.

Yet the aim was not to supposedly bring the Bidens to account - this was never going to happen - but only to have the Ukrainian government say publicly they were "investigating" the Bidens - it wouldn't matter what they were investigating them for, so long as the US electorate gained the impression the Bidens were crooked - of which there is no actual evidence. Put simply, it was an attempted smear by Trump of a political opponent, using leverage over a foreign power to do it for him. This is how a mobster works; not a President of the US.

Democrats lose again!!!!!

Armstronglivs wrote:

Put simply, it was an attempted smear by Trump of a political opponent, using leverage over a foreign power to do it for him. This is how a mobster works; not a President of the US.

perhaps....I guess he could have done it the old (HRC style) way and just pay someone

Hillary was a 99.99% Matt Silver shoe-in 3 years ago or longer. Hence Biden, Kerry, Pelosi, Clinton and Romney Crime Families looting Ukraine with impunity. Never were going to get caught.

Who is James Buchanan?

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/donald-trump-campaign-raises-3-1-million-in-small-donations-during-impeachment-hearings/

Democrats lose again!!!!!

Midwest and southern voters agree!!!!

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/donald-trump-campaign-raises-3-1-million-in-small-donations-during-impeachment-hearings/

Democrats lose again!!!!!

He will need it for his legal fees, when he faces criminal charges further down the track. But fact-checking of Breitbart news puts it on a par with Trump's similar record for invention. The figure is most likely inflated by a factor of 10 and most of the "donations" will have come from Trump's real estate business - with a topping up by Putin.

ReallybroReally wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Put simply, it was an attempted smear by Trump of a political opponent, using leverage over a foreign power to do it for him. This is how a mobster works; not a President of the US.

perhaps....I guess he could have done it the old (HRC style) way and just pay someone

You mean, the way Trump pays off porn stars?

Armstronglivs wrote:

ReallybroReally wrote:

perhaps....I guess he could have done it the old (HRC style) way and just pay someone

You mean, the way Trump pays off porn stars?

well, yes cash talks But as far the the smearing goes, my point is there is a lot of that going around.

ReallybroReally wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You mean, the way Trump pays off porn stars?

well, yes cash talks But as far the the smearing goes, my point is there is a lot of that going around.

Difficult to see how Trump is being smeared when a list of officials working for him are simply spelling out what he did. Trump doesn't actually deny it - he and his supporters just don't think there is anything wrong with it. "Perfect", as usual - and if you have the political morality of Tony Soprano.

Midwest and southern voters agree wrote:

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/donald-trump-campaign-raises-3-1-million-in-small-donations-during-impeachment-hearings/

Democrats lose again!!!!!

Midwest and southern voters agree!!!!

Do they know where the Ukraine is? (But they do know quite a bit about white nationalism.)

Armstronglivs wrote:

ReallybroReally wrote:

well, yes cash talks But as far the the smearing goes, my point is there is a lot of that going around.

Difficult to see how Trump is being smeared when a list of officials working for him are simply spelling out what he did. Trump doesn't actually deny it - he and his supporters just don't think there is anything wrong with it. "Perfect", as usual - and if you have the political morality of Tony Soprano.

um, wrong topic. I was referring to the Steele Dossier, a paid for smear

Armstronglivs wrote:

An investigation by law enforcement agencies requires evidence to justify such an investigation; no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens existed so no US agency was investigating them. But this was irrelevant to Trump, who has no understanding of or regard for democratic processes

Yes, nothing fishy about the VP's crackhead son being placed in the board of a Ukranian oil & gas company by an oligarch under investigation for money laundering, despite the fact that Biden's kid had absolutely no experience in that industry, and didn't speak the language. Hunter got onto the board less than 90 days after being expelled from the Navy for crack use, and weeks after his dad was put in charge of US-Ukranian relations.

Further, after he was forced out of office, the former prosecutor general of Ukraine submitted a sworn affidavit to an Austrian court in which he confirmed that there was an open investigation against Burisma at the time he was fired. Joe Biden is infamously on tape bragging about being responsible for getting Shokin fired by threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees.

The fact that the Obama Administration refused to investigate the Bidens doesn't mean the Trump Administration can't. Announcing a presidential candidacy - or being a close family member of a candidate - does not make someone immune from investigation.

Countries co-operate with one another on investigations literally every single day..

While you two are stuck debating Biden family, impeachment moves forward. You can tell that Democrats are bigger than Biden. Democrats will throw Joe Biden out of presidential race if necessary. Speaker Pelosi will send over a dozen articles of impeachment to U.S. Senate. Tell your Republican friends they can vote Not to Remove on 12 of 18 articles of impeachment. Now are you happy.

It isn't governments - at least democratic ones - that investigate people for criminal infractions, it is law enforcement agencies. They aren't directed by governments but are independent - that's part of the rule of law. No enforcement agency had legal grounds for investigating the Bidens - so they didn't. If there aren't grounds for investigating breaches of the law what other investigation can there be? Oh, right - we are heading into the territory of the People's Republic of North Korea here.

The gravest allegation being levelled here against the Bidens is one of possible nepotism - which isn't actually a criminal offence (and easily draws in most of Trump's family - pot calling kettle black) - or lack of competence for the task appointed (er, Trump's family again and all of his present staff). In fact, no American business enterprise could escape scrutiny for the latter. As a textbook narcissist Trump does what textbook narcissists do - project their faults on to others. And you buy it.

^ don't fool yourself. Anything sent to the senate at this point is DOA and you know it.

Democrats hate Christians wrote:

12:41 P.M. — Rev. Franklin Graham slams the impeachment hearing in a Facebook post:

It’s a day of shame for America. The media is calling the Democratic-led impeachment inquiry “historic;” and it is—historically shameful. That our politicians would bring this kind of harm to our country over a phone call, with the world watching, is unbelievable. As Christians, as those who follow and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, let us pray throughout the day and all of these proceedings. Pray for our nation, pray for our leaders, and pray for President Donald J. Trump.

Trump has said nothing about the downing of flight mh17 over the Ukraine. 298 people died. I don't think he cares about Putin invading Crimea either.

All of his financing comes from Russia. And you try to bring a religion into it? Ridiculous. Look at facts.

This has to do with whether Americans will tolerate a president with no character.

Every day the United States allows Trump to stay in the whitehouse is a day of shame.

I believe there was a Jesus, by the way. I don't think he would choose sides, but if he did, I'd bet he'd be on mine.

While you two .. wrote:

While you two are stuck debating Biden family, impeachment moves forward. You can tell that Democrats are bigger than Biden. Democrats will throw Joe Biden out of presidential race if necessary. Speaker Pelosi will send over a dozen articles of impeachment to U.S. Senate. Tell your Republican friends they can vote Not to Remove on 12 of 18 articles of impeachment. Now are you happy.

The House will impeach. The Senate will acquit. Nothing Trump does bothers his support base, which includes almost all Republicans - except the possible loss of an election.