San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:
I saw your map my run workout for that 16min 5k.... Down 1000' hill. Maybe 19min effort on flat
Not talking about that one.
http://i.imgur.com/wTpOQpV.jpgSan Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:
I saw your map my run workout for that 16min 5k.... Down 1000' hill. Maybe 19min effort on flat
Not talking about that one.
http://i.imgur.com/wTpOQpV.jpgNot Likely wrote:
Jo72 wrote:
I have no idea what could be possible as the best combination.
But I wonder how close some decathletes could get as they would be among the best candidates. The new world champion Niklas Kaul ran 4:15 in the 1500m after a decathlon. He could probably run 4:05 when fresh and with a little more endurance training get close to 15:00 although it is likely that he would be quite a bit slower in the 5k. He's almost 200 pounds and very good at discus and javelin but I have no idea what such a guy could bench press.
Big difference between a 1500 & 5k. You won't find many guys running a 15 minute 5k weighing 200 lbs.
Not many, sure. And I don't think Kaul could run 15 min, but probably sub 16. But you don't find that many decathlon world champions either, roughly about one every two to four years and most of them are only mediocre in the 1500m, Kaul has probably the best combination of 1500m and throws in the history of decathlon, so I think some of the best decathletes are closer candidates than most others. (certainly closer than a guy who put shot in college and ran a 19 min 5k...)
I briefly thought about people from other sports, e.g. rowing, but for 15 min. running form and economy is fairly important, so a strong backed rower with huge Vo2 max would not be as efficient a runner as a 48 sec. 400m runner.
The best I have done within 1 month is sub 18 at 5km and 450lbs 1RM benchpress. My guess is that someone with great running talent and 10 years of good strength training could get close to sub 15 (even if it feels like another planet when it comes to pace when I think of it..)
Possibly Kevin Krause from Long Island, NY and then William & Mary (late 80s through the 1990s) - guy was an absolute tank...but 400 lbs is a lot of weight to bench.
I've run sub-15 and benched 225 (not my eventual max) within a 12-month period so I think I have a little perspective on this. You basically have to be really built (unless you're just super big), not the typical distance runner frame, to bench anything over 300. And you also have to carry way more mass than is ideal for distance running. So you'd be restricting the candidates to someone who could probably run sub-14 when in distance running form. Then, they need the frame to put on bench press muscularity - these traits generally don't apply to the same (very few) people who have the genetic potential to run sub-14. I would think someone like Alan Webb would be your best chance, and I think there is a high likelihood he could have done sub-15 and 300 pounds at the same time, but 400 really seems a stretch and I doubt anyone could do both. You just don't see distance runners benching even half that, or guys who can lift 400 pounds being anywhere near sub-15.
Video of 154lb guy benching 400lbs.
