EPO Linked To NOP Athlete in 2011

L-carnitine + Actovegin.

Can’t take insulin with your carnitine? So take a drug with insulin-like action. Can’t be sold to the public because it can’t be sold to the public, haha.

A-rod’s cocktail of choice (in addition to testosterone, haha). Sound familiar?

Banana Bread wrote:

Is anyone else still chuckling at the NOP bust? Sometimes I wake up chuckling so loudly that my mom comes into the room to check what is happening. What a joke they are. The whole world knows they are clowns now

the part that has me laughing is that you live with your mom.

Would be funny if this unnamed athlete was Goucher...

zxcvzvxc wrote:

Notably, Rupp did run 13:37/28:15 as a junior. Of course, Al Salazar was already his coach and there's a notation that he was using testoboost in hs in his medical papers.

Can’t remember if this was after his senior year of HS or a gap year before he went to U of O (because AlSal had yet to push Martin Smith out).

i think its goucher who else would go to the daily mail most likely someone that wants to make nop look as bad as possible but remains anonymous not to make herself look bad

Banana Bread wrote:

Is anyone else still chuckling at the NOP bust? Sometimes I wake up chuckling so loudly that my mom comes into the room to check what is happening. What a joke they are. The whole world knows they are clowns now

The basement must not have very thick walls.

alsal wrote:

i think its goucher who else would go to the daily mail most likely someone that wants to make nop look as bad as possible but remains anonymous not to make herself look bad

How could this possibly be Kara? How would she know Galen's doping test results?

Chris people... the source for that article is Magness! He had access to every athlete's blood work.

If Magness was the source then this would’ve come up during the USADA investigation. He was able to point to specific charts of Galens from when he was 15 that said he MIGHT have been on testosterone, but he didn’t mention that the blood work of an athlete shows they were likely on EPO? Seems unlikely to me

Unlikely wrote:

If Magness was the source then this would’ve come up during the USADA investigation. He was able to point to specific charts of Galens from when he was 15 that said he MIGHT have been on testosterone, but he didn’t mention that the blood work of an athlete shows they were likely on EPO? Seems unlikely to me

Nothing to see here. Just like the Aden debacle, it will all be buried with time; and everyone will forget.

It's a pity wrote:

Unlikely wrote:

If Magness was the source then this would’ve come up during the USADA investigation. He was able to point to specific charts of Galens from when he was 15 that said he MIGHT have been on testosterone, but he didn’t mention that the blood work of an athlete shows they were likely on EPO? Seems unlikely to me

Nothing to see here. Just like the Aden debacle, it will all be buried with time; and everyone will forget.

Letsrun never forgets. People bring the same shıt up every two weeks.

El Keniano wrote:

Timeline of events wrote:

El K in 2011 "Kenyans don't dope!!!!"

El K in 2015 "only no name Kenyans runners dope"

El K in 2017 "this can't be happening, it must be a setup!"

El K in 2018 "I'm outta here, I can't take all these Kenyan busts"

El K in 2019 "everyone is doping but only Kenyans are getting caught"

Nothing about what I posted then?

What happens to them? Hopefully they get busted. Just like the dirty Kenyans are.

Desperatetly Important wrote:

I guess Mr. Troop is desperate for attention, wants to be a self proclaimed expert

I have no idea of Mr. Troop's motivations, but if he is self-aware, I would guess that he does not want to be "a self proclaimed expert." That is the label given to people who are experts only or mostly in their own opinion. Maybe he views himself, realistically or otherwise as an expert in his field, and perhaps in addition he wishes this fact to be known about himself. But in your haste to condemn him, you come off sounding like, say, a wannabe poser.

That aside, I think someone confused something above, but I give too little of a rat's ass to check. I think that Mr. Troop was saying there were 4 US or 2 Int'l NOP athletes who could have been the unnamed athlete in the article based on unique details, and that got conflated with the total number of U.S. and Int'l NOP athletes on the roster in all.

You all know who it is anyway.

zxcvzvxc wrote:

Notably, Rupp did run 13:37/28:15 as a junior. Of course, Al Salazar was already his coach and there's a notation that he was using testoboost in hs in his medical papers.

There was no testoboost notation. That was the same story that Salazar put forward in response to to the BBC ProPublica expose showing that Rupp was on "testosterone medication" at age 15. (Note that the chart shows increasing total hemoglobin levels, which testosterone causes, and which testoboost does not cause.)

if rupp was on EPO, why didn't he medal...

London Bridge is Falling Down wrote:

Are they coming anonymously to journalists rather than participating in the USADA investigation as to not incriminate themselves?

Why would anyone turn to USADA if they wanted to bring a doping program to light? Journalists are the only reason that any doping evidence ever sees the light of day. On the rare occasions that USADA, IAAF, WADA, etc, act, it's because journalists or hackers force them to do something to maintain the charade that they want to fight doping.

Is this still not obvious to some of you?

Perineal tendernitis wrote:

You all know who it is anyway.

I don't.

Levels of doping wrote:

Does this move the US ahead of Russia in distance running doping?

1) Ethiopia/Kenya

2) Middle East/Turkey

3) Morocco/Algeria

4) USA

5) Russia

Don't forget the many others like Uganda, the Netherlands, France, Sweden, and more.

OverThere wrote:

Levels of doping wrote:

Does this move the US ahead of Russia in distance running doping?

1) Ethiopia/Kenya

2) Middle East/Turkey

3) Morocco/Algeria

4) USA

5) Russia

Listen you British Twit, everyone knows you are right up there.

GB is huge in drug cheating, too, true.