I’m done with this sport

George213 wrote:

Warrington wrote:

Bowling.

E-Sport, curling.

Learn to use google. Esports have had as many doping scandals as athletics in the past 5 years.

The difference is so many track fans devote a disproportionate amount of energy and emotion to “clean sport,” and not to the action on the track.

I thought Doha was an awesome meet that exceeded the past few WCs in matchups, big performances and surprises. Combined with Bekele’s run and sub-2, this has been possibly the best September/October in track and field fandom that I can recall.

If you have been following track this summer and are left with a bad taste in your mouth, then I think you are watching with the wrong intentions and probably should move on to something else.

Generally speaking, it's best to know relatively little about professional athletes in any sport. They tend to be not-great human beings, having been groomed and pampered, their assses kissed since early childhood. I'm usually disappointed by them the more knowledge I gain about them.

If you like running, run. It doesn't need to matter that the elites are doped up self-focused d-bags.

Your problem with sport might just be a letsrun problem. Leave this swamp for a couple months and see if your outlook brightens.

all things considering wrote:

NCAA track is the way to go. Flotrack's streaming of college meets is terrible for the most part but the buildup to NCAA outdoor/indoor nationals usually pays off. Especially for the last two outdoor national championships. And some of these meets are streamed by other sources like ESPNU so you don't have to go the flotrack route. Other than that, yeah forget about the whole post-collegiate running thing.

You're right. It's great that we get to watch the Olympic teams of other countries develop on full scholarships in the USA.

It's like an informal diamond league circuit in the US. Who cares if our athlete development programs produce results like today's Chicago marathon. We are citizens of the world and every final at every level of the NCAA should be an Olympic development program for the rest of the world and I am happy to pay taxes to further that goal.

And everyone who disagrees with me is a bigot and has a huge common footprint(and was probably raised in Common Louis, Missouri.)

Spot on assessment. Pro running has become even worse than cycling, which few thought possible.

Drugs are rampant and WADA and USADA are either woefully behind, or totally corrupt. To think differently is to ignore logic and the bulging eyes of runners manipulating their thyroids.

On a pro sport level, in general, to ignore that one shoe company seems to be more important than any sport or athlete (See NBA in China also) right now, is being naive.

Until Betsy Andreu is in charge of USADA or Nike, we will never have a clean sport. I am only half joking.

Concur on the turning off of pro athletes. The Israelites worshiping the Golden Calf made more sense than looking up to these narcissistic people.

Sports were supposed to be a complementary activity to learning: Mens sana in corpore sano. We are not even in the same area code as that thought anymore...

+1. Why do people celebrate Kipchoges bouncy-shoe/car and pacers taking all wind sub 2 marathon?

Warrington wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Name me a professional sport with no doping at the top?

Alan

Bowling.

what in the name of chris Schenkel.

Are you kidding? Beer is as much a part of the sport as the ball. And Adderall and/or coke help maintain focus.

And in August, Puerto Rico was stripped of the gold in the Pan Am games cuz best guy tested positive.

Apparently, steroids are popular with these guys.

And a Pakistani guy got busted by the cricket WADA overseers.

Yes when organised sport becomes

corrupted to such a level you walk away

That does not include grassroots sport ,

the pleasure of running for what is .

or any sport that not highly organised ,

walkaway , or maybe run .

when a team does very little to represent you locality , etc and so on .

afraid many sports like this , only waking up to fact the now .

baseball and the so called juiced ball have at moment is not just the ball.

doping taking off again with The Speed Peptide and not a wishper .

will you take that as serious

due to natural empirical nature of athletics becomes very evident

when dope is involved and its organisers made that very clear .

with such deception , bribing of testers and officials etc takes it to another level .

real problem is the extreme gaslighting of public on their part .

Question are there any athletes willing to talk .

willing to expose the real dope de jeur at moment .

or are they all controlled and system too .

is the public never going to know ,how this illusion was made .

and the illusion been going on since jamicans in 2007 .

will the masters of illusion show its trump card .

Any time money is involved, there will be cheating. Trading desks and billion dollar company board rooms are filled with illegally purchased drugs, steroids, and hormones of all sorts to give you an extra edge. There’s big money at stake in track for those at the top. Thus, there will ALWAYS be an incentive to take PEDs. Spending $50k to get the good stuff to make a few hundred grand in a year is a great investment.

Take away the money from track and dopers will vanish.

The OP isn't the only one "done with this sport". Most of the wider sports public is. Kipchoge's sub-2 has been likened to Bannister's achievement, but Bannister's run was an historical moment that reverberated around the world; outside of a dwindling fan base of running nuts and Kenyans the sub-2 barely registered.

I was just saying all this stuff this morning. The doping has ruined the sport. It’s actually not even fun to watch anymore.

Good bye!!!

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:

Generally speaking, it's best to know relatively little about professional athletes in any sport. They tend to be not-great human beings, having been groomed and pampered, their assses kissed since early childhood. I'm usually disappointed by them the more knowledge I gain about them.

If you like running, run. It doesn't need to matter that the elites are doped up self-focused d-bags.

PLUS ONE

running is a good thing to do.

competitive sports is dirty at the top.

the only clean elite guys are totally gifted.

now what?

who cares, unless you are looking for a pat on the back and status from your community. for running in circles.

or whatever.

that would make you a c**nt.

so go for a run and enjoy it, silly c**nt.

NBA basketball.

I'm not a fan but they could be clean.

coach a team...you'll fall in love with the sport all over again

Armstronglivs wrote:

The OP isn't the only one "done with this sport". Most of the wider sports public is. Kipchoge's sub-2 has been likened to Bannister's achievement, but Bannister's run was an historical moment that reverberated around the world; outside of a dwindling fan base of running nuts and Kenyans the sub-2 barely registered.

You are absolutely wrong.