I don’t agree with my coach’s training methods, advice?

Sage Canaday syndrome, get help ASAP.

2 workouts a week over the summer is very, very normal. Wait for the taper, you'll likely at least PR. That effort you went sub 5 for the first mile is likely equivalent to 17:00

I wish my coach would’ve had us do a puker-workout this season. Those are the ones that hurt but make you so much better.

You have two options: either quit the team or go along with your coach’s program. Do not fight him or try to persuade him to train you differently. It won’t work, will only create personal tension. Go along with his program during the season, focusing on hard workouts and races. Hit the hard workouts and races hard, and go easy on non-workout days so you can recover from the hard sessions. This will maximize your potential in the near term. You can do what you want during the off season. Most HS coaches suck, you just have to accept it and do the best you can. Fighting my coaches ruined my HS career.

Sounds like a sprint coach trying to coach distance.

Sorry you have a bad coach

There’s always private schools

Shop around and get out

runnermuskie wrote:

I still medaled but he refused to let me go to awards because I didn’t “run like a winner”.

Your post was semi-plausible until this.

Too far.

1.5/10 for the first few paragraphs.

Dont believe this post at all. Especially the cant go to the awards because not a winner. Even 15 years ago that would be suspect...today he'd he out in an instant.

In the hypothetical:

The higher mileage is good. The intensity is stupid. Once or twice a week hard, everything else at maybe 7:30-9' pace is good.

Honestly, I'd just outright quit, or if you want to suck it up because you really want to compete or not affect teammates then just sandbag. Say you feel shitty. When running the intervals just say it's all you got. He will probably give you sh1t. Just shrug it off if you arent willing to walk off. If he threatens you, see what the bare minimum you can get away with is. If it's too odious...quit or get your parents and other kids involved. If enough of you complain, he's out.

My coaches aren't nearly as bad as yours, but they've been giving us three workouts a week, every week, all season, even with region next week. My fatigue was building up and they didn't give me a chance to dispel it, so last week, I lied to get out of practice, told them I'd make up the workout, and did an easy run. The rest I got from that allowed me to move from the 7th guy to the 3rd guy at the last meet. With all those workouts, you have to be in amazing shape, but you need to let yourself recover or you'll just be burying yourself so deep that you'll get injured or never perform near you fitness. If the coach doesn't let you run slow on the slow days and take an easier week once every 4 weeks, you need to lie or do whatever you can to get out of practice and get recovered. You'll be benefitting yourself and your team by doing so.

zero for tenner wrote:

runnermuskie wrote:

I still medaled but he refused to let me go to awards because I didn’t “run like a winner”.

Your post was semi-plausible until this.

Too far.

1.5/10 for the first few paragraphs.

Yeah my troll o meter was already on high alert but that sealed the deal.

He sounds like a wimp trying to act hard. Act crazy and challenge him to a fist fight.