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Its was the Britains who prostested (Andrew Butchart?)
But Norway has laid in a "anti-protest" to counter the rouling and Jakob will now have to explain himself.
As as fanboy i hope he gets to run the final, but he really screwed up leaving it so late.
Ernest wrote:
For those curious, the fine print...
DQ seems to hinge on whether advantage is gained. The athlete is also required to expediently return to the track.
IAAF COMPETITION RULES 2018-2019
RULE 162
...Lane Infringement
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(a) In all races run in lanes, each athlete shall keep within his allocated lane from start to finish. This shall also apply to any portion of a race run in lanes.
(b) In all races (or any part of races) not run in lanes, an athlete running on a bend, on the outer half of the track as per Rule 163.5(b), or on any curved part of the diversion from the track for the steeplechase water jump, shall not step or run on or inside the kerb or line marking the applicable border (the inside of the track, the outer half of the track, or any curved part of the diversion from the track for the steeplechase water jump).
Except as stated in Rule 163.4, if the Referee is satisfied, on the report of a Judge or Umpire or otherwise, that an athlete has infringed this Rule, he shall be disqualified.
4.
An athlete shall not be disqualified if he
(a) is pushed or forced by another person to step or run outside his lane or on or inside the kerb or line marking the applicable border, or
(b) steps or runs outside his lane in the straight, any straight part of the diversion from the track for the steeplechase water jump or outside the outer line of his lane on the bend, with no material advantage thereby being gained and no other athlete being jostled or obstructed so as to impede his progress. If material advantage is gained, the athlete shall be disqualified.
Note: Material advantage includes improving his position by any means, including removing himself from a “boxed” position in the race by having stepped or run inside the inside edge of the track.
This Note specifically outlaws the practice of an athlete seeking to improve his position in races by moving onto the inside of the track (whether intentionally or after being pushed or jostled there by another athlete to get out of a boxed position by running on the inside until clear.
Whilst normally running on the inside of lane 1 in the straight (as distinct from doing so on the bend) would not lead to mandatory disqualification, the Referee now has the power to disqualify in his discretion if this occurs and the athlete is advantaged even if the initial reason for being there was the result of being pushed or jostled.
...the athlete should take immediate steps to return to the track without seeking or gaining any advantage.
Reading this, the "advantage gained" part only applies if you're in the straight.
Shortly after the race his father said on Norwegian Television that he ran like an idiot, and so he did. Disqualfied, fair and square.
nobbystiles wrote:
This a complete joke. Pedantic officiating getting in the way of common sense again. He gained no advantage. Another nail in the coffin for this dying sport.
he gained no advantage in terms of distance he ran....But if there was no room on the inside like there wasn't, he would have had to slow down a bit and pass on the outside running further. So yes, big advantage doing what he did vs. the alternative way of passing within the rules.
KaareV wrote:
All these doping allegations and conspiracy theories
Ah yes, the conspiracies
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/04/doping-hotspot-ethiopia-drug-testing-epoJakob FanBoy wrote:
Its was the Britains who prostested (Andrew Butchart?)
I know who I will be rooting against for the rest of their career.
no way should that have been a DQ. Bad decision.
Saving the sport? You guys realize he has less than 200k followers on Instagram? My niece has more.
well then wrote:
Jakob FanBoy wrote:
Its was the Britains who prostested (Andrew Butchart?)
I know who I will be rooting against for the rest of their career.
Agreed. Absolutely cowardly dickless move on Butchart's part.
Not that he has any chance in the final regardless.
Just a pathetic slimey human being.
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
Garbage call.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
rojo wrote:
Not Jakob wrote:
He forced his way on the inside and then ran inside the rail.
I don't like DQs but that's a blatant DQ. You don't take 3-4 steps inside the rail simply because you are too lazy to run wide. You try to pass on the inside , that's a risk you take. He should be DQd.
First off every one chill out. This was a heat and it did not appear that he looking for or gained an advantage of significance.
Second Running inside the rail is not an automatic DQ. If you get bumped at running speed and are off balance its tough to get back on the track in one stride especially in a pack. I think he made an effort to get back quickly. There has been far worse with no DQ's in the past.
State of the sport:
- 8 Kenyans on the world team get caught trying to get EPO. No bans.
- Jakob accidentally gets bumped off the track, which had no effect on the race. Gets DQ. Sad.
this is so stupid, no way he got any advantage from that
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
well then wrote:
I know who I will be rooting against for the rest of their career.
Agreed. Absolutely cowardly dickless move on Butchart's part.
Not that he has any chance in the final regardless.
Just a pathetic slimey human being.
You guys really don't understand this sport. Butchart didn't protest - the British federation protested. Even if he didn't want them to, they would protest.
Agree wrote:
Agree wrote:
+1
Prediction? He's still running in the final.
As expected, they didn't have the stones to apply the rules.
I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong. Shockingly, common sense prevails.
Heads up JI fans, you’ll now be able to play “woulda coulda shoulda” in the 5000m final instead of watching him fail to medal.
observer_of_things wrote:
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
Agreed. Absolutely cowardly dickless move on Butchart's part.
Not that he has any chance in the final regardless.
Just a pathetic slimey human being.
You guys really don't understand this sport. Butchart didn't protest - the British federation protested. Even if he didn't want them to, they would protest.
Ok if he wants to show that he didn't think they should protest then he will do the right thing and not run in the final.
It helps the Brits having the IAAF president. No way they are backing out now.
uyo wrote:
this is so stupid, no way he got any advantage from that
how didn't he? there was no room so to get by he would have had to pass on the outside...He was just lazy and tried to force his way in
observer_of_things wrote:
Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:
Agreed. Absolutely cowardly dickless move on Butchart's part.
Not that he has any chance in the final regardless.
Just a pathetic slimey human being.
You guys really don't understand this sport. Butchart didn't protest - the British federation protested. Even if he didn't want them to, they would protest.
There shouldn't be a requirement to protest in a case like this. Not saying there isn't but is isn't a good rule that a protest is required.
rojo wrote:
Here is a video. Hopefully weldon doesn't get his press pass revoked.
https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1177632486358171649
Looks like a DQ to me sahn.
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
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