Fuel Cell Rebel vs Streak 7 vs Floatride Run Fast

Jeremy R wrote:

All about the same price, all about the same weight, all about the same drop, even the same category...

I'm looking for a half/full marathon shoe.

Currently been enjoying my Streak 6's but they are starting to wear out. Considering trying something new. I bought the Floatride Energy for daily runs and find them to be responsive, albeit a bit hard. Not sure if the Run Fast are the same foam.

I would consider the Skechers Razor Hyper, but the drop is too low for me- I've had tight calf issues during these long races.

Note: I have the Vaporfly FK, but I really don't enjoy running in them... May try them out again, however

Any opinions on the three I listed?

Thanks!!

Lower drop shoes stretch calves by allowing for the muscle to stay less contracted compared to a higher drop shoe. So I think you may need to revaluate.

Personally the streaks don’t work for half for me.

Look into carbon rocket or I like NB 890 v7 for speedier stuff around 10-13

The Run Fast feel nothing like the Forever Energy. Completely different midsole. Entirely different upper. A totally different shoe. The midsole is the same type of foam used in the Vaporfly, but much less of it and an old fashioned EVA foam is used to keep things stable. You actually feel this EVA piece under midfoot when you first put them on and it feels odd, but that disappears entirely when running. The Run Fast is a phenomenal shoe (and the price it can be had for right now from Reebok is bonkers.) Super light and super responsive and super comfortable with a great, grippy outsole. Really no frills and no gimmicks, just a great shoe that floats across the road.

However, I don't spend more than about 15 miles running in them and would not run a marathon in them. I've heard this from others, as well. They're great for about a half marathon and then my feet begin to feel beat up and I get unhappy quickly. The shoe feels soft, but there's really not that much protection there for long miles. Exactly the opposite feel of the Razor 3, which feels much less soft yet somehow offers way more cushion over longer distance.

While I don't have any personal experience in the first two, I loooove the Floatride Run Fast. So much so, my second pair arrives today. My first pair is about a year old and has 260 miles on them. I still enjoy running in them for faster effort days, but since Reebok has certain colors on sale at just ridiculous prices, I opted to pick up another pair to dedicate just to race day. My only (minor) gripe with them is though the tongue is connected to the shoe on its sides, it somehow manages to slide down a bit when running. However, it's never bothered me while actually running.

I've used my Run Fasts for a half marathon and for long runs up to about 16 miles with no issues.

I do also have the Forever Energy, and as already stated, it definitely rides differently than the Run Fast. The Forever Energy has some great bounce, but it is indeed a firmer ride. The Run Fast with its PEBAX foam is somehow lighter, bouncier, AND not as firm. It really is impressive.

I've wanted to try the Fuel Cell Rebel, but I got my new Run Fasts for about half the cost! Maybe when they go on sale some day...

I've been running in the Rebels for a few months now, and have put about 150 miles on them. It's a great shoe.

BUT...they are small. I've just bought another pair for the Amsterdam marathon, and have gone half a size up on my existing shoes....in fact, I've also gone for the wide version.

I like running shoes, and have bought all sorts in search of my marathon shoe (Vaporfly, Carbon X, Escalante Racer). These are fast, light AND comfortable, and feel so good when running tempo.

^^^ This. Go pebax or go away.

I have the rebel...people seem to think it's soft but I find it too firm for easy day running. When I get to race pace it is fine and has a nice heel to toe roll, but at easy day pace I wince every step. and it seems wide and sloppy to me. and hot.

So i'll probably use it as an interval/tempo shoe. Maybe race in it, I don't know.

Weird about how people find it soft. Maybe I got a lemon.

Jeremy R wrote:

All about the same price, all about the same weight, all about the same drop, even the same category...

I'm looking for a half/full marathon shoe.

Currently been enjoying my Streak 6's but they are starting to wear out. Considering trying something new. I bought the Floatride Energy for daily runs and find them to be responsive, albeit a bit hard. Not sure if the Run Fast are the same foam.

I would consider the Skechers Razor Hyper, but the drop is too low for me- I've had tight calf issues during these long races.

Note: I have the Vaporfly FK, but I really don't enjoy running in them... May try them out again, however

Any opinions on the three I listed?

Thanks!!

I own all three and have used all three quite a bit, esp the Rebel and Fast.

Far and away, the Reebok is the best shoe of the three, especially if you are using for racing.

Streak 7 is just a shoe. Also, it is quite firm, esp if considering a Full. I really enjoy these for track workouts, but they are just too harsh for me on the roads.

Rebel is a great shoe. Very comfortable, the little flare out to the side seems to add a little stability for supinators, but the midsole, although very light and comfy, tends to sap more energy than it returns.

The Floatride Fast is a rocket ship. The Pebax midsole is simply in another league. Very lightweight, fantastic energy return, feels like way more stack than it actually is, in terms of protection for longer races. I would race anything from a mile to a HM in them, and planned on racing my marathon in them, if my VFN% hadn't come in on time.

Thanks everyone!

what I meant to say about the Achilles/Calf issue earlier is that I've injured it so many times that my foot/ankle doc doesnt want me running in zero drop (was a HUGE fan of the Escalantes)

Looks like the Reebok's are the way to go. Do they run long like the floatride energy? I had to get a half size down for the energy's (I'm usually a 9.5), but could prob have even gone a whole size if the shoe wasn't so narrow...

Thanks!

Jeremy R wrote:

Thanks everyone!

what I meant to say about the Achilles/Calf issue earlier is that I've injured it so many times that my foot/ankle doc doesnt want me running in zero drop (was a HUGE fan of the Escalantes)

Looks like the Reebok's are the way to go. Do they run long like the floatride energy? I had to get a half size down for the energy's (I'm usually a 9.5), but could prob have even gone a whole size if the shoe wasn't so narrow...

Thanks!

I would say yes, they run just a tad long. I normally wear a 14, but after switching in a very thin insole, I am able to wear the RFRF in a 13 - the largest size they offer.

That said, I think they are largely TTS... just a hair long, if anything.

Personally, I went a half-size down on the Forever Energy (9.5) and true-to-size on the Run Fast (10)...and actually every other pair of running shoes in my closet. That Forever Energy was a bit of an oddball on sizing.

Thanks! That's definitely something to consider. I'm glad that RW lets you return shoes easily

FYI: 170lbs Hobby Jogger 1:37 HM

I have the Rebels, Run Fasts, and Floatride Energy. I've enjoyed all this training season but everything posters above said for the Run Fasts is true. It's in another league for me on the Rebels. The Pebax is so nice - cushioned, light, responsive. Agree on the weird EVA that you feel immediately when you put it on. Goes away pretty quickly at speed though. I don't think they run that long. Width is on the money. I ordered TTS 10.5 and they're perfect. I have a 10 in the FE - they were clown shoes at 10.5.

I also agree with the poster regarding the Rebels as harsh at most paces. I ran my recent HM in them and they definitely did their job, disappeared, let me focus on pace, and my feet felt great afterwards. I do my track workouts in them because the flange does feel supportive for me at paces above 6:00. I did not get the sizing right with my pair at my normal 10.5D. I don't have a wide foot at all and the shoe feels pretty constricting. The 11s were a hair big and my feet slid around more than I liked. Maybe the 10.5 wide would have been a better call but I didn't try those at fitting.

I do wonder if I have the efficiency to use the Run Fasts at my goal marathon this fall. I'm going to rock out one of my 20s in them and see how the feet feel, but its my intention to use them then. Have a fresh pair of Beacon 1s should the FRRF not feel cushioned enough on the 20.

I'd point you to ordering the Run Fasts right now from Reebok. They're running a sale on the Lime or Blue color way for about $65 shipped.

I've only used the Reebok Floatride Runfast but have used them this year for anything 10km - marathon. I'm 5'9 (155lbs) and 35:40 for 10km and 2:52 for the marathon. I feel they are comfortable/responsive/light and gave me no issues for marathon.

I did go 0.5 down (normally 9.5 for Saucony shoes but 9.0 for the run fast).

I'd say my only complaint is i ran my half on wet roads and even though the sole looks like it would be grippy, I felt it like i was slipping when pushing off so that aspect annoyed me

Rebel is closer to being like a Nike Turbo than a Streak (not quite as soft as the Turbo).

Could not find those deals on the site unfortunately, but thanks for the insight. Sounds like Run Fasts are next for me!

Jeremy R wrote:

Could not find those deals on the site unfortunately, but thanks for the insight. Sounds like Run Fasts are next for me!

RIP this dude's feet.

ded wrote:

Jeremy R wrote:

Could not find those deals on the site unfortunately, but thanks for the insight. Sounds like Run Fasts are next for me!

RIP this dude's feet.

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Jeremy R wrote:

ded wrote:

RIP this dude's feet.

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Well, I tend to agree. It's clear to me after reading this thread that the only way to know is to try them all for yourself.

I used the RunFast when they came out and they were good, especially at faster paces, but overall felt flat to me. This "Pebax Rules" stuff is nonsense. It's great in the vaporfly, but the VF is also taller, with a carbon fiber plate in the middle. The RunFast is a good shoe, but to me it felt flat and unresponsive. And the full length rubber outsole was loud and felt really odd.

I bought the Rebels and was blown away. Super responsive, a nice amount of bounce with each step.. I totally love them and am hoarding them at a fast rate. What a killer shoe. But, a few people here aren't big fans.. and that's ok. My form and stride just fell into place and it felt effortless in the Rebel. Anyways.

And of course, the Zoom Streak is great and probably one of the better racers out there today, but it's firm and pretty harsh. You have to be a different kind of person (strong and/or light) to use the Streak in a half or full marathon, Great shoe, but I feel like it was designed for elite runners mainly.

Rebel

Reebok

Zoom Streak.

You can always get the Reeboks on sale, so they're worth a shot.. but I wouldn't look over the New Balance.

Ordered the Floatride RFs in my typical size. we'll see how they go.

Thanks for all the feedback