COLEMAN WILL COMPETE AT WORLDS (Even though he had 3 whereabout failures in the last year)

Armstronglivs wrote:

So Coleman had a good lawyer. What we have revealed is the happy marriage of enforcement incompetence with cheating, producing a "clean" athlete.

And if all else fails, "the lady deserved a treat."

runnER/DR wrote:

"he has been tested 20 times in 2018 and 2019".

That's a lot of negative tests.

but he missed 3 which might not o been negative

The timing is suspicious... wrote:

Coleman missed tests on June 6, 2018, and January 16 and April 26, 2019,

Why did it take until August 2019 for this to be resolved (leaked/announced)? (and then the hearing suddenly "expedited")

Why was Coleman tested 6 times so far in Q3 2019, if he already should have been banned starting on 27 Apr 2019 (early Q2) by three (3) Whereabouts Violations, according to USADA's first logic?

Yes, the time-line of USADA sitting around for four (4) months from believing Coleman has a Where-Abouts violation, until finally moving expeditedly on the issue is truly appalling, both in retrospect and in-time. Who knows how many back-room conversations occurred. If it weren't a bureaucratic Western org where one expects the Kafkaesque realpolitik, it would likely be considered "state-sponsored" doping or something.

Subway Surfers wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

They are targeting him because he missed two tests already and he is a man running under 9.8.

History has shown that nearly every man under 9.8 is a doper unfortunately.

I guarantee Coleman is doping. Missing three tests is extremely dodgy. Doesn't matter that he passed lots of other tests, that's not how doping works. You take the test if you know the drugs are out your system. You dodge the test if they aren't.

+1

USADA doesn't care. He got away with cheating.

I don’t want to go as far as to say, “I guarantee he’s doping”. However, missing all these tests certainly show a disregard for the process and hard to argue they aren’t on purpose.

I’m not saying this is the case, however, it’s also conceivable that he’s taking something he shouldn’t be that is banned but not performance enhancing. It’s been years since I have had any involvement in someone being drug tested but I’m assuming that illicit drugs are also on the list.

I don’t want to label the guy and out right accuse him of anything but it certainly is another possibility that can be considered. Unfortunately, we cannot go back in time and the main point being that there is no drug test to check. And, obviously, there were three within 12 months.

So, he's clear. Test him today.

Just like the contaminated meat excuse.

I am sick of USADA letting athletes off. No wonder people are leaving the sport on droves.

So, will we see a drop off in performance now?

Subway Surfers wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

Clown show!

+1

A mate of mine just did the WCs standard and the first thing I said to him (other than congratulations) was if the testers turn up, don't answer ?

Lol, tell him to start practicing his lame excuses. “Sorry I didn’t come to the door, I couldn’t hear the bell because I was busy kissing and eating a funny-tasting hamburger, while my masseuse stood in an EPO-filled puddle in the corner and stared at me vindictively”. ?

If it's really a rule that tests get backdated to day 1 of the quarter: USADA should have known that!

If it's not a rule, USADA should ban him for two years.

Either way, USADA dropped the ball again.

Correct ruling. The actual failure to update took place on April 1, 2018, and not on June 6th, 2018. That is the date that the infraction was discovered. Also, even without that I don't have a problem. This guy is tested around 20 times a year. He basically missed 1 test in 2018, and 2 tests in 2019. I thought the beginning of the cycle started at the beginning of the year, because even in that scenario, he still would be within the rules. There is nothing to see here. Seriously.

"However, based on a Comment in the ISTI that states that Filing Failures relate back to the first day of the quarter, Coleman contended that his failure to update which was discovered on June 6, 2018, should relate back to April 1, 2018, which would be more than 12 months prior to Coleman’s most recent Whereabouts Failure on April 26, 2019. As a result, USADA consulted with WADA to receive an official interpretation of the relevant Comment in the ISTI. This interpretation was received on Friday, August 30, 2019, and was that the Filing Failure which USADA had recorded in June 2018, should relate back to April 1, 2018, the first day of the quarter in which the failure to update occurred."

atrackandfieldfan wrote:

I am not defending Coleman when I say that this strikes me as a rather sloppy move on WADA's part; bringing an anti-doping motion against an athlete without having the precise details down. Question to lawyers: Would Coleman have any success with a civil suit asking for damages due to defamation and potential lost future income due (hard to calculate) due to insinuation of doping?

Absolutely not.

Beyond gov't immunity issues truth is an absolute defense to libel/ slander/ defamation suits.

Coleman missed 3 tests in less than 12 months. WADA / USADA brought a case, based on the rules, for missing 3 tests in less than 12 months. Coleman escaped sanction due to an obscure echnicality but the case was based on entirely truthful assertions.

But how do you know the failure to update took place on April 1, 2018? That's when he filed his whereabouts document. He failed to UPDATE it before June 6, 2018. What if on June 4 it was accurate, and on June 5 he changes his plans and neglected to update his whereabouts? Then the infraction occurred on June 5, 2018 but it's backdated to the date the original document was filed? This makes no sense at all. Great way to grow the sport: opaque, convoluted anti-doping regulations that not even the governing bodies properly understand.

Bottom tier law school wrote:

atrackandfieldfan wrote:

I am not defending Coleman when I say that this strikes me as a rather sloppy move on WADA's part; bringing an anti-doping motion against an athlete without having the precise details down. Question to lawyers: Would Coleman have any success with a civil suit asking for damages due to defamation and potential lost future income due (hard to calculate) due to insinuation of doping?

Absolutely not.

Beyond gov't immunity issues truth is an absolute defense to libel/ slander/ defamation suits.

Coleman missed 3 tests in less than 12 months. WADA / USADA brought a case, based on the rules, for missing 3 tests in less than 12 months. Coleman escaped sanction due to an obscure echnicality but the case was based on entirely truthful assertions.

There seems to be a lot of speculation about this. Did Coleman actually miss 3 tests? I don't believe so, as a missed test is not backdated to the first day of the quarter it happened in. Only a filing failure is backdated. Coleman is "escaping sanction" not because of a technicality as so many people here are claiming, but because HE DID NOT BREAK THE RULES as they are written. He had a filing failure and two missed tests.

He is not the only one who has missed two tests, but he is the only one who has missed two tests that is being dragged through the mud. Unless he did actually miss three tests, which at this point seems impossible because missed tests are not to be back-dated, he should sue for damages as they have certainly damaged his reputation.

He would have to actually prove damages. Will be hard for him to prove any recoverable losses. Not to mention he would have to sue an organization that has 100 lawyers. Not saying impossible.

Again please read the article. He missed three tests.

If the anti doping agency were unable to test him on the third location because he failed to tell them where he is, that is a missed test in my opinion. They intended to test him that day and were unable to do so due to Coleman failing to provide his whereabouts.

There is literally no excuse. Those are three missed tests. The only reason he's been let off is due to the technicality around the third test meaning he actually 'broke the rules' on April 1st. They tried to test him June 6th.

I wonder if they rang his phone? They are able to do that.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Correct ruling. The actual failure to update took place on April 1, 2018, and not on June 6th, 2018. That is the date that the infraction was discovered.

Again, if true, that shows that USADA didn't know the rules - otherwise they couldn't have threatened to sanction or schedule a hearing (which now got canceled).

How embarrassing.

I've read the article from letsrun several times and it is ambiguous at best what has actually happened. Even the owners of this site are unsure of what has actually happened. I'm assuming they are trying to figure out the details and will be updating us soon.

Yes!