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Good points.
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Good points.
To be fair, Doha and Shanghai were weak because they were so early and few people from the US/Europe bothered to show up. I am afraid that these two will stay for reasons of sucking up to these countries. But it would be good to get rid of at least one of them.
In any case, if we cannot get rid of Doha/Shanghai, Birmingham should be replaced by Berlin or Ostrava or one in Poland.
spot on, as always wrote wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Oh O.K, trying to pi$$ on a 17 year old incredible talent because you don't like a poster on this board.
I see.
Burgin is a great talent. Still far from the top at the moment.
Five of the top ten 800m runners this season are Kenyan - but all are going backwards? Can you explain, please.
As you can see: he can't.
First Doha and Shanghai wrote:
If Birmingham loses DL status then Doha and Shanghai should go first. Alexander stadium was ar about 85% capacity yesterday, so coming up on 10,000 people. Crowd was active and vocal as opposed to mostly empty huge stadia in Shanghai and Doha which only have DL meets to help whitewash reputations of crummy governments. You're complaining about the women's mile? Rababe Arafi won in Shanghai in 4:01 for crying out loud and she's lost to DeBues-Stafford 5 times this year alone lol and GDS was a second behind Konstanze who was hurting in this one unlike when she stomped the Millrose field without breaking a sweat.
Birmingham is a weaker meet, hurt this year by the late worlds. It's annoying seeing Britain get two DL's and looks like Britihs favouritism, but at the end of the day the Brits show up. 10,000 yesterday, 20,000 odd back to back days in London. Also France effectively gets two (Paris, Monaco), Switzerland gets two (Lausanne, Zurich). Not crazy that the UK gets two.
Doha had an Korir, Amos, Brazier, Rotich, Tim, Elijah, Souleiman, Iguider, Semenya, Niyonsaba, Wilson, Obiri, Dibaba, Chepkoech, Muhammad, Asher-Smith, and Okagbare. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Shanghai had Lyles, Coleman, Kerley, Kejelcha, Barega, Gebhriwet, Samba, Benjamin, Hobbs, Okagbare, Naser, Sydney, Hassan, Chepkoech, and Chespool. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Birmingham couldn't even get the top athletes from the host country.
Coevett wrote:
Oh O.K, trying to pi$$ on a 17 year old incredible talent because you don't like a poster on this board.
I see.
Right - because you never do that.
/s
Sure if you want to play that game, Birmingham 2018 had Lyles, Blake, Rodgers, Coleman, Korir, Manangoi, Rotich, Lewandowski, Chelimo, Kibet, Kipruto, Manyonga, Miller-Uibo, Asher-Smith, Schippers, Muir, Hassan, Tirop, Tseguy, Obiri, Konstanze, and Ibarguen. That's not totally stacked like some meets are but about the same as Doha and Shanghai from this year.
Birmingham's women's 200m was stacked this year as well - Miller-Uibo, Asher-Smith, Fraser-Pryce is a great podium.
However, as has been said, everyone is skipping this year because of worlds so if you're gonna write off Birmingham you shouldn't do it over one year.
More than that, it the meet isn't getting the big names, get a new meet director don't change location. Doesn't matter who the meet director for Doha or Shanghai is, you're never going to fill the stadium because the people don't care about track. Shanghai is q city with a larger population than Australia yet can't sellout one track meet. Punishing a community that actually supports and shows up to meets every year while sustaining empty meets is stupid.
If the meet cast is sub quality that isn't location issue but an organizational one.
Agreed with other posters that if it were to move though, Berlin would be great.
Which city could replace Birmingham and fill a stadium?
Why not somewhere in Africa? I am sure Nairobi or Addis would have thousands of fans.
McSweyn>Rupp wrote:
McSweyn is much taller than Rupp. Incredible talent who looks like he runs fast with ease.
He will likely be far better than Rupp 1500-5000. Already far better in the 1500/mile which is the premier track event for many.
He's the new improved model, grown in a secret NOP lab from modified Rupp DNA.
Birmingham should be stripped of DL wrote:
First Doha and Shanghai wrote:
If Birmingham loses DL status then Doha and Shanghai should go first. Alexander stadium was ar about 85% capacity yesterday, so coming up on 10,000 people. Crowd was active and vocal as opposed to mostly empty huge stadia in Shanghai and Doha which only have DL meets to help whitewash reputations of crummy governments. You're complaining about the women's mile? Rababe Arafi won in Shanghai in 4:01 for crying out loud and she's lost to DeBues-Stafford 5 times this year alone lol and GDS was a second behind Konstanze who was hurting in this one unlike when she stomped the Millrose field without breaking a sweat.
Birmingham is a weaker meet, hurt this year by the late worlds. It's annoying seeing Britain get two DL's and looks like Britihs favouritism, but at the end of the day the Brits show up. 10,000 yesterday, 20,000 odd back to back days in London. Also France effectively gets two (Paris, Monaco), Switzerland gets two (Lausanne, Zurich). Not crazy that the UK gets two.
Doha had an Korir, Amos, Brazier, Rotich, Tim, Elijah, Souleiman, Iguider, Semenya, Niyonsaba, Wilson, Obiri, Dibaba, Chepkoech, Muhammad, Asher-Smith, and Okagbare. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Shanghai had Lyles, Coleman, Kerley, Kejelcha, Barega, Gebhriwet, Samba, Benjamin, Hobbs, Okagbare, Naser, Sydney, Hassan, Chepkoech, and Chespool. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Birmingham couldn't even get the top athletes from the host country.
I'll take Koko over those entire fields for Doha & Shanghai combined. No one interesting there.
My take. wrote:
Birmingham should be stripped of DL wrote:
Doha had an Korir, Amos, Brazier, Rotich, Tim, Elijah, Souleiman, Iguider, Semenya, Niyonsaba, Wilson, Obiri, Dibaba, Chepkoech, Muhammad, Asher-Smith, and Okagbare. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Shanghai had Lyles, Coleman, Kerley, Kejelcha, Barega, Gebhriwet, Samba, Benjamin, Hobbs, Okagbare, Naser, Sydney, Hassan, Chepkoech, and Chespool. This is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the fields for Birmingham.
Birmingham couldn't even get the top athletes from the host country.
I'll take Koko over those entire fields for Doha & Shanghai combined. No one interesting there.
Got it. You don't like watching World Champions and global medalists.
Same ol' same ol' wrote:
spot on, as always wrote wrote:
Five of the top ten 800m runners this season are Kenyan - but all are going backwards? Can you explain, please.
He constantly belittles the Kenyans.
Buried in his hole - really pitiful.
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