"All NFL Wide Receivers can break 50 sec in the 400m"

That list is pretty much it, what a dozen guys there in the 100 year history of NFL football?

Very uncommon for college footballers to run sub 47.00. First off they don't like the event.

Yes, I totally agree about all these NFL WR's being able to break 50.00 with a little getting used to the distance. Just don't see sub 47.00, that is something very different.

Back in the old yard days a 9.3 was the HS record for years, so......who was this guy? I know of no Saint player other than Larry Burton a 200m Olympian out of Purdue who ever ran a 9.3.

The NFL is full of HS/College track guys so....????

Whatley wrote:

First off they don't like the event.

This is probably the most underappreciated point.

I trained frequently with the football guys in the sprints and they would kill me in 100-200m sprints but after a few reps they would basically be like “man why are you doing this crap? At least in football you get paid...”

I had nothing in reply. Too much truth is too painful. Why would a guy jeopardize a football career worth millions by losing top-end speed and power by training for the 400m?

Usain Bolt started out a 400m sprinter and if ya notice so many of the top sprinters today have.can run a solid 400m. Gatlin has split 44.3, Yohan Black anchored his Saint Jago HS 4x4, Tyson Gay has split 44.8. Christian Coleman ran on his Tennesse 4x4 team, but none of them were college footballers.

As we know everything over a 60 is about speed endurance, those who can maintain/sustain a higher % of max velocity/topend have the advantage, 400m strength a good thing too have.

Anyway, starting to rattle on now.

I have no doubts all NFL WR have the potential to break 50.00/23.00.

They stopped running hand timed 100 yards in 1976, And his NFL career was 84-85, hmmm?

I do keep on on this stuff (have notebooks type freak/geek) I really can'tt any HS kid running a 9.3 getting by me. I have access to every 9.3 ever ran and he isn't there.

Sorry about that mess, used to being able to edit.

A wr who was drafted in the third round tried to run on my college track team. Definitely could not break 50.

Whatley wrote:

You were doing great until you got to this bit about running a 45 400m. Yes a 47-49ish is very real for these guys, but it does end there, trust me very few footballers were capable of running a sub 46.00 400m, been about half a dozen of them in the 100 year history of the NFL.

I'm totally with you about everything but that.

I was with him until he claimed that D1 football gets the cream of the crop athletes and it's not close.

Uh, it certainly is close... with Basketball being the other top choice. LeBron James is a perfect example. He could easily have been a 5-star D1 football recruit, but he chose basketball.

Granted, he was otherworldly in basketball, but it's also the clear choice for career longevity, which is why guys that CAN play both sports will often choose hoops. Charlie Ward another example.

LeBron James didn't play D1 basketball EVER.

+10

Your 2nd paragraph puts the nail in the coffin..

Slow Bro wrote:

I was with him until he claimed that D1 football gets the cream of the crop athletes and it's not close.

Uh, it certainly is close... with Basketball being the other top choice. LeBron James is a perfect example. He could easily have been a 5-star D1 football recruit, but he chose basketball.

Granted, he was otherworldly in basketball, but it's also the clear choice for career longevity, which is why guys that CAN play both sports will often choose hoops. Charlie Ward another example.

First off, let's agree that most NBA players wouldn't make the NFL and most NFL players won't make the NBA. Just entirely different skillsets.

I am talking about athletic traits. Strength, speed, explosiveness, agility, balance. Basketball relies way too much on height. You have gumpy tall freaks with little athleticsm competing in D1 bball and the NBA. Yeah, occasionally you get phenoms who are both tall, fast and strong like Lebron or Rodman, or those who aren't that tall but very fast and agile like Iverson, but if you were to do a 1-to-1 matchup between an average footballer and bballer, the footballer is stronger, faster and more agile.

Also, I'm sure in most towns and cities, the best athletes all gravitate towards football. That's where the glamor is, at least through the college level. High schools and colleges typically care much more about their football program than their basketball program. Compare the number of football movies vs. basketball movies. It's not even close. Football is by far more popular than basketball.

And if you want to throw out phenoms, has there ever been a basketball player that was as much of an absolute unit as Bo Jackson? Bo could outsprint Lebron and also easily take him in a fight.

There is so much mental retardation in this thread. Once rosters get cut down to 53 players, there will be about 318 NFL WRs (6 per team).

Sub 50 in the 400 is really moving, most of these guys would gas out at 250m. Maybe 30 of them could break 50 seconds off of their football training. With months of specific 400m training I could see that number increasing significantly, but nowhere close to 100%, or even 60%. Most of these guys are giants, not everybody is Tyreek Hill.

A more appropriate question would be how many NFL Cornerbacks can break 50sec in the 400.

Track Mayock wrote:

There is so much mental retardation in this thread. Once rosters get cut down to 53 players, there will be about 192 NFL WRs (6 per team).

Sub 50 in the 400 is really moving, most of these guys would gas out at 250m. Maybe 30 of them could break 50 seconds off of their football training. With months of specific 400m training I could see that number increasing significantly, but nowhere close to 100%, or even 60%. Most of these guys are giants, not everybody is Tyreek Hill.

A more appropriate question would be how many NFL Cornerbacks can break 50sec in the 400.

Talking about mental retardation and I can't even multiply correctly. Fixed.

Whatley wrote:

They stopped running hand timed 100 yards in 1976, And his NFL career was 84-85, hmmm?

I do keep on on this stuff (have notebooks type freak/geek) I really can'tt any HS kid running a 9.3 getting by me. I have access to every 9.3 ever ran and he isn't there.

I was racing imperial measured distances as late as 1980. Nineteen-eighty, meets were help on 440 yard cinder/dirt, 440 yard synthetic and 400m tracks.

None can break 50 for the 400m at present.

Odell Beckham couldn't finish a lap, he'd get distracted and wander off.

There are definitely a handful who could break 50 right now at the drop of a hat, but not many. I would say there are more than could run sub 22 in the 200, which is a direct reflection of the training they do.

I ran sprints at a major DI where the football players occasionally were rostered and also worked for a few years in NFL combine preparation with round 4-7 type talent, so I've run the workouts with these guys and I've run the workouts for these guys. The training that these guys do and bodyweight that they add is not conducive to running a 400m; however, make no mistake about it, these guys are freak athletes.

I would also say that given 4-8 weeks of training, at least double the number could crack 50.