Did the "Duel in the Sun" ruin Beardsley's career, too?

Yeah, then there's a janky late-70s Ford pickup with alloy brackets all over it leading the way.

Can you imagine something like that pacing Kipchoge these days?

I met him once... wrote:

IIRC he changed his focus to the 1984 Olympics after that and soon ruptured his Achilles. Even though he obviously had the standard, they told him he still had to run the standard within a calendar year of the trials so he tried to get back from the surgery too quickly and then he ruptured (both of?) his Achille(s) (again?). I'm pretty sure after that he tried to make a comeback but it wasn't meant to be so he retired to his farm.

He bought the farm?

malmo wrote:

Duel in th Sun 2 wrote:

Beardsley did run 1982 but I think he finished way back. What happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCIGNWVkzc

That video says the 1982 race was hot? It wasn't. I was in it. Look at all of the people wearing heavy overcoats, gloves amd hats.

And I was rooting for you big time George as you were leading at one point. It was cool indeed, but you guys definitely had some wind to contend with.

While Al Salazar probably did lose some potential at Boston in 1980, susequent marathons and training continued

his downfall. He admits in his wikipedia to hating running and wishing to lose a leg so he would not have to run anymore.

Afterwards he took Prozac and won the crazed Comrades Marathon.

A doctor diagnosed Salazar's running problems and exercise-induced asthma as largely due to the 1982 marathon, and successfully prescribed Prozac to improve his physical symptoms and depression. Salazar closed his restaurant, began training again at the age of 34, and in 1994 won the prestigious 90 km (56 mi) Comrades Marathon. He soon retired from competing, believing that he had nothing left to prove as a runner, and became a running coach.[4] Salazar stated that Prozac played a role in motivating him to succeed in professional running again; the actual effect of the drug on his performance remains controversial.[10]

He was one who guided Lance Armstrong to a sub-3 hour marathon.

I absolutely hate the NOP track club for what they stand for which seems to be drug use and pushing it

to 100% even if it means death. Hence their skull and cross bones symbol they wear on their shirts. (Okay, no

cross bones, but they might as well add it.)

It's sick and also part of the "laying on the track," hot dogging we see after races.

I've seen whole fields of the 800 lay on the track after a race.

High school kids will pound the turf after a supposedly bad race.

How sad.

I propose that any all out marathon has to lower your ultimate potential at least .1%.

It's okay to do training runs that distance, but going all out has to be the same as doing any other

extreme exercise. Body Builders do extreme exercise which is detrimental to their health.

Studies can certainly prove this maximum.

Salazar didn’t hate running, he had overtrained and rapidly lost what once made him great, read his book and get a real view of what he thought.

And what was that rant at the end about high school kids pounding turf and laying on the ground, why shame people for passion and emotion. I doubt your some grown man watching hs track meets but another high schooler

What is with all the bikes and motor vehicles?

Do they still run the Boston Marathon that way?

I seem to recall Salazar having a couple of really hard races after which he had to be packed in ice or something. I was always under the impression that it was the birth of his child that led to the slow deterioration of his career. Sleep deprivation.

Read Alberto Salazar's wikipedia, especially his "post collegiate" section.

And no I am not a high school runner, rather I am a former DII runner, coach, and

now writer.

Our sport has went media stupid just like football, basketball, baseball.

There is a lot of hot dogging. When you win, act like you have been there before,

when you lose, lose with dignity and respect for yourself and the competition.

what i was impressed by wrote:

I was oddly impressed by Salazar's book. Essentially from 1983 on - Salazar - a young guy at that time - spend the next decade trying to recapture the magic, running slower each year. In 1988, he could not longer break 30 minutes for 10k. I find it remarkable that he stayed with it all of these years. I used to wonder why Herb Elliott retired early - Salazar shows why.

Hard to survive as an amateur runner back in Elliot's day (except for the occasional shoe stuffed full of cash).

malmo wrote:

Duel in th Sun 2 wrote:

Beardsley did run 1982 but I think he finished way back. What happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCIGNWVkzc

That video says the 1982 race was hot? It wasn't. I was in it. Look at all of the people wearing heavy overcoats, gloves amd hats.

According to Weather Underground, the high at LaGuardia that day was 51. Seems like a pretty nice day for a marathon.

8 0 0 wrote:

It's sick and also part of the "laying on the track," hot dogging we see after races.

I've seen whole fields of the 800 lay on the track after a race.

High school kids will pound the turf after a supposedly bad race.

How sad.

Here are some "hot doggers" for ya

MORAN.

Luv2Run wrote:

According to Weather Underground, the high at LaGuardia that day was 51. Seems like a pretty nice day for a marathon.

https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/new-york-city/KLGA/date/1982-10-24

Why do you think it was a "nice day"? It was cold. Pay attention to the wind readings. The race started at 10:30, maybe a little later.

Luv2Run wrote:

malmo wrote:

That video says the 1982 race was hot? It wasn't. I was in it. Look at all of the people wearing heavy overcoats, gloves amd hats.

According to Weather Underground, the high at LaGuardia that day was 51. Seems like a pretty nice day for a marathon.

https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/new-york-city/KLGA/date/1982-10-24

It was windy, not just breezy. That makes it feel colder than the recorded temp. Pretty nice?

8 0 0 wrote:

A doctor diagnosed Salazar's running problems and exercise-induced asthma as largely due to the 1982 marathon, and successfully prescribed Prozac to improve his physical symptoms and depression. Salazar closed his restaurant, began training again at the age of 34, and in 1994 won the prestigious 90 km (56 mi) Comrades Marathon..

Alberto closed "HIS" restaurant? First of all, "his" restaurant (Oregon Electric Station) wasn't exactly his. Heavyweight Eugene restaurateur, Cordy Jensen, who has a long history of attracting minor partners into his restaurant empire -- mostly local sports celebrities -- was the owner. Secondly, Alberto's interest was dissolved after four years. The Oregon Election Station has never closed, it is one of the most successful restaurants in Oregon.

Just sayin....

That race didn't ruin Salazar's career. That summer, Salazar ran 13:11/27:25 and then won the NYC marathon that fall. His decline was from an accumulation of overtraining and started in late 82 or early 83.[/quote]

Over-racing and over training ruined him......Lydiare would have said small base, over race? You done.

I thought Salazar damaged his thyroid do to over training in the early eighties.