The pythons are in Florida to stay. There is no removing them now by any means short of scorching the earth. This is not our biggest problem to deal with. How about using the effort on climate change, decreasing competitiveness of education in US schools, or unregulated pricing in our pharmaceuticals?
I have lived on both sides of the Everglades (East and West Coast of Florida) and have never seen one in the wild. They are a nuisance and are invasive, but thanks to hunting and more research, I think the numbers are slowly dropping. In the city, I don't think they pose as much of an issue. We have better control and research to prevent them from affecting humans/pests/livestock.
We gotta get rid of those suckers...
22 inch pythons, brother wrote:
The only python that concerns me is the one resting in my ASICS 6 inch running shorts, brother.
You wouldn't need to worry with 3" shorts.
My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun.
BotanyMan wrote:
Yes, some of the Burmese Pythons are/descendants of released pets. However, the main cause of the population explosion is Hurricane Andrew. A large facility containing many pythons was destroyed in the storm, and the snakes escaped into the Everglades.
Not true. One got away from a pet owner several decades ago.
Dorando wrote:
if 90% of their prey is gone in barely a decade, this problem will self correct.
How many people live in Florida?
Citizen No wrote:
Will the living ones fill out the census?
No, because that wouldn't make census.
Street address wrote:
Citizen No wrote:
Will the living ones fill out the census?
No, because that wouldn't make census.
Yeah, it would be hard for them to check off the boxes on the questionaire.
WTF^n wrote:
Dorando wrote:
1. As someone said, if 90% of their prey is gone in barely a decade, this problem will self correct.
2. One really cold winter and they will all die.
3. The 100000 is a wild guess. No-one has any idea really.
1. Well, if by self correct you mean leaving the ecosystem completely changed and having many species completely wiped out then yeah.
2. Their numbers may go through cycles but to think that "one really cold winter and they will all die" is profoundly ignorant.
3. Pretty sure that there are a few folks who study these things and that they do have some idea of the numbers. Frankly it's not all that difficult to get a reasonable estimate from a combination of field studies and the proper application of mathematics.
According to Darwin's theory, the species (including "small mammals" that can, will survive and their characteristics will dominate the gene pool and balance will be achieved.
Of course by 2040 when the sunken peninsula formally called Florida no longer exists it is sort of mute point. It will be an awesome sport fishing destination so that is a good thing.
Flounder wrote:
2040 when the sunken peninsula formally called Florida no longer exists it is sort of mute point. It will be an awesome sport fishing destination so that is a good thing.
When Florida disappears, the swampy areas - and snakes - will spread to neighboring states.
Flounder wrote:
WTF^n wrote:
1. Well, if by self correct you mean leaving the ecosystem completely changed and having many species completely wiped out then yeah.
2. Their numbers may go through cycles but to think that "one really cold winter and they will all die" is profoundly ignorant.
3. Pretty sure that there are a few folks who study these things and that they do have some idea of the numbers. Frankly it's not all that difficult to get a reasonable estimate from a combination of field studies and the proper application of mathematics.
According to Darwin's theory, the species (including "small mammals" that can, will survive and their characteristics will dominate the gene pool and balance will be achieved.
Of course by 2040 when the sunken peninsula formally called Florida no longer exists it is sort of mute point. It will be an awesome sport fishing destination so that is a good thing.
I am guessing smaller mammals who have previously developed a fear of snakes to survive will do better than larger mammals who never had to be concerned about snakes.
WTF^n wrote:
Dorando wrote:
1. As someone said, if 90% of their prey is gone in barely a decade, this problem will self correct.
2. One really cold winter and they will all die.
3. The 100000 is a wild guess. No-one has any idea really.
1. Well, if by self correct you mean leaving the ecosystem completely changed and having many species completely wiped out then yeah.
2. Their numbers may go through cycles but to think that "one really cold winter and they will all die" is profoundly ignorant.
3. Pretty sure that there are a few folks who study these things and that they do have some idea of the numbers. Frankly it's not all that difficult to get a reasonable estimate from a combination of field studies and the proper application of mathematics.
Field study + application of math = guesstimate
Way too many assumptions to apply.
Once saw about a 13 foot alligator and a 10 footish python tussle in the everglades. After about 5 min of maneuvering and going at it the alligator killed the python and swam off with its meal. Amazing to witness.
Once was fast wrote:
Once saw about a 13 foot alligator and a 10 footish python tussle in the everglades. After about 5 min of maneuvering and going at it the alligator killed the python and swam off with its meal. Amazing to witness.
So that’s how Amy Schumer got engaged?
ShortBusKid wrote:
Street address wrote:
No, because that wouldn't make census.
Yeah, it would be hard for them to check off the boxes on the questionaire.
Python have excellent text processing capabilities!
Scorpion_runner wrote:
This is insane. Before the Millennium, there were no Burmese Pythons in the everglades. It was basically an Alligator dominated region, but controlled.
People starting owning pythons as pets in the late 90s, due to snakes being glamorized in music videos and movies. The same way pitbull ownership went up in the 90s due to the dog being highly glamorized. However, unlike dogs, pythons can grow to enormous lengths, thus becoming extremely difficult and dangerous to own. Some owners were even killed by their own pythons.
Instead, of handing those snakes over to the zoo, or an exotic pet shop, owners simply threw the snakes in the Everglades with no remorse. And since the avg person does not understand how evolution works ( especially with reptiles!) , or that something just simply does not disappear, pythons procreated rapidly. Now, florida has the huge natural crisis on their hands, and it is just going to get worse, because reptiles focus on 2 things like no other creature: Eating and Reproduction.
Snakes can lay up to 70 eggs in a labor session, with the majority of the offsprings surviving.
The ignorance and negligence of man continues.
The only way to deal with this is to make it a food market! Hunt and sell them as a delicacy, and the numbers will decrease. However, pythons have high mercury concentration.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/07/08/near-record-python-hatching-eggs-captured-florida-everglades/
The ironic thing is this is not an example of evolution. That would be if the snakes turned into , say, pheasants, polar bears, or the like. Your example is simple adaption, which is not evolution.
Flounder wrote:
WTF^n wrote:
1. Well, if by self correct you mean leaving the ecosystem completely changed and having many species completely wiped out then yeah.
2. Their numbers may go through cycles but to think that "one really cold winter and they will all die" is profoundly ignorant.
3. Pretty sure that there are a few folks who study these things and that they do have some idea of the numbers. Frankly it's not all that difficult to get a reasonable estimate from a combination of field studies and the proper application of mathematics.
According to Darwin's theory, the species (including "small mammals" that can, will survive and their characteristics will dominate the gene pool and balance will be achieved.
Of course by 2040 when the sunken peninsula formally called Florida no longer exists it is sort of mute point. It will be an awesome sport fishing destination so that is a good thing.
Given the cyclical nature of weather and the consistent cooling over the past 20 years, the recent dramatic increases in ice thickness as well as that we are overdue for an ice age, I would be more expecting freezing in Florida vs Florida ceasing to exist.
MohammedAA wrote:
Given the cyclical nature of weather and the consistent cooling over the past 20 years, the recent dramatic increases in ice thickness as well as that we are overdue for an ice age, I would be more expecting freezing in Florida vs Florida ceasing to exist.
You must be living in a cave, to be so ignorant. No offense meant to cave dwelling people.
CrocDundee wrote:
You call that a snake?
Come down to Australia. We got saltwater crocs, snakes, sharks, box jellyfish, spiders....all deadly.
Good on ya, CrocDundee, for putting us Florida wimps to shame!
I'm so humbled to have read a post by a truly brave human...truly brave simply because he or she lives, even thrives, in a godforsaken environment of death. You are one of the supreme beings on this planet simply for living in the land of such human demise from natural critters.
Your post reminds me of the reaction to the Virginia-area 5.8 earthquake of 2011. Those REAL men and women from REAL earthquake-prone lands let it be known that the poor victims of 8/23/2011 had nothing to emote about. The bragging should be confined to the toughies who face total destruction in places where widespread Armageddon is only a matter of time, like Los Angeles.
One website with a suitable graphic, showing a toppled plastic lawn chair:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4778.0Crikey! G'day.
PythonDundee wrote:
CrocDundee wrote:
You call that a snake?
Come down to Australia. We got saltwater crocs, snakes, sharks, box jellyfish, spiders....all deadly.
Good on ya, CrocDundee, for putting us Florida wimps to shame!
I'm so humbled to have read a post by a truly brave human...truly brave simply because he or she lives, even thrives, in a godforsaken environment of death. You are one of the supreme beings on this planet simply for living in the land of such human demise from natural critters.
Your post reminds me of the reaction to the Virginia-area 5.8 earthquake of 2011. Those REAL men and women from REAL earthquake-prone lands let it be known that the poor victims of 8/23/2011 had nothing to emote about. The bragging should be confined to the toughies who face total destruction in places where widespread Armageddon is only a matter of time, like Los Angeles.
One website with a suitable graphic, showing a toppled plastic lawn chair:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4778.0Crikey! G'day.
Ya got me, cuz you have something more crazed and dangerous than anything down under: "FLORIDA MAN."
every day theres a bizarre story about your neighbors headlined: Florida Man.....(fill in some insane behaviour).
Glamorized?
Like taking pics of your Python, and posting it to others?
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