Democrat presidential debate official thread

L L wrote:

Sometimes I like to post at Rigged’s level.

But I’ve noted that the incumbent Carter only won 6 states in 1980.

Mondale only won 1 state of in 1984.

I truly think Trump could get swept if businesses stay closed 3 months or more, which would be crippling and hard to come back from.

Unless people can overlook a shattered economy and vote for Trump for his dignity and bipartisanship.

As far as red states, I think a lot of right leaning people could vote for Biden while others in those states skip the presidential ballot.

That you actually think it could happen is even worse than the immaturity of posting knowingly false claims adding nothing. You’ve lost the plot.

Not Born in the USA wrote:

You are underestimating the loyalty of people like "Crystal in PA."

If the unemployment rate goes up to 20%, they will blame every one from China, Dems in Congress, Obama, Main Stream media, career bureaucrats at CDC, Bill Gates to their favorite bogeyman, George Soros. They think Trump was unfortunate to be hit by a "natural disaster" but is fighting for the forgotten men and women in spite of all the enemies foreign and domestic.

Biden could win the popular vote by 10 million, and the election still could come down to a few states in the upper Midwest.

This is exactly what I thought. The people that have been staunch Trump supporters so far aren't going to suddenly change their minds because of coronavirus. He's great at pinning the blame for his failures on others. He'll just blame China and the media, and his followers will follow.

Biden (or rather his campaign team) is just now figuring out the internet.

[Biden's] reclusiveness in recent days has become news in itself: His only real or virtual public appearances last week, during the most alarming series of events to transpire in America for at least 19 years, were a five-minute speech about Tuesday’s primary elections and a Friday conference call with reporters. At the end of that call, he apologetically said his campaign was just on the verge of getting digital streaming figured out. “They tell me there’s ways in which we can do teleconferencing via us all being in different locations,” he said in a way that did not quite convey steely confidence and managerial focus, adding: “We’ve hired a professional team to do that now. And if you excuse the expression, it’s a little above my pay grade how to do that.”

Meanwhile, Bernie had virtual events several times last week that lasted 1h+ despite also being a senator.

breit leit wrote:

L L wrote:

Sometimes I like to post at Rigged’s level.

But I’ve noted that the incumbent Carter only won 6 states in 1980.

Mondale only won 1 state of in 1984.

I truly think Trump could get swept if businesses stay closed 3 months or more, which would be crippling and hard to come back from.

Unless people can overlook a shattered economy and vote for Trump for his dignity and bipartisanship.

As far as red states, I think a lot of right leaning people could vote for Biden while others in those states skip the presidential ballot.

That you actually think it could happen is even worse than the immaturity of posting knowingly false claims adding nothing. You’ve lost the plot.

What false claims have I posted?

Extended closure of businesses absolutely will cripple the economy.

Maybe Mississippi and Wyoming will vote for Trump.

Things are changing rapidly day by day. We don't know what things will look like in the fall.

Trump is freaking out right now.,

L L wrote:

What false claims have I posted?

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Trump won’t win a single state.

Not with 25% unemployment and the stock market below where it was when he started.

Come on man, be better than this.

dunes runner wrote:

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

I also didn't know the coronavirus vaccine is FREE under Bernie. I'll run down and get mine today. Where are they giving it?

The Bill Gates Foundation. He's been working on it for quite a long time, and it also makes you sterile.

I'm already sterile!

moderates suck wrote:

dunes runner wrote:

The Bill Gates Foundation. He's been working on it for quite a long time, and it also makes you sterile.

I'm already sterile!

I am also voluntarily sterile. Too bad Bernie isn't President so I could get my free coronavirus vaccine.

Dementia Joe's first public appearance in nearly a week, what a disaster.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/joe-biden-stumbles-over-words-during-coronavirus-speech/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Trump really can't Fox News his way out of this one. Sure, there will be infowars/Qanon people who wouldn't budge even if Trump got caught on a hot mic wishing that COVID 19 would thin out the NASCAR fans so he could buy of the tracks and turn them into golf courses for billionaires. But the problem right now, and it is an interesting thing to watch, is that the corporate and finance people who control Fox News are faced with a big dilemma. They cannot just deny COVID 19 outright because we will end up like Italy time one hundred. That is why you saw a sudden shift on Fox News nearly overnight. But then you have the problem of people like Lloyd Blankfein and others floating this idea of keeping high risk people home and letting everyone else go back to normal. If Trump overrules his scientists and pushes people to get back to work, we will end up back where we started and have to have even more restrictive measures in place. So, it will be interesting to watch Fox News and see whether they decide to roll the dice and urge a return to normal after a few weeks or go the other direction and stay the course.

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Too bad Bernie isn't President so I could get my free coronavirus vaccine.

Since lab rats were injected with the virus for testing, that's probably the easiest way to get it.

Trump approval trending up:

44.5%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Libs can't believe it.

KAG2020

May want to look at these while you're on the site.

breit leit wrote:

L L wrote:

What false claims have I posted?

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Trump won’t win a single state.

Not with 25% unemployment and the stock market below where it was when he started.

Come on man, be better than this.

A prediction or projection of the future cannot be a false claim.

(and the stock market already has dropped below where he started)

A false claim would be something like "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period,"

Or

Trump claimed that Mexico is paying for his border wall, saying, without explanation, "Yes, they are, actually. You know what I mean, right? They are paying for it." He added, "And they're OK with it because they understand that's fair."

Things like that.

I made no false claims.

Maybe an unrealistic prediction with zero states, though it's possible.

But 25% unemployment is realistic.

L L wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Come on man, be better than this.

A prediction or projection of the future cannot be a false claim.

(and the stock market already has dropped below where he started)

A false claim would be something like "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period,"

Or

Trump claimed that Mexico is paying for his border wall, saying, without explanation, "Yes, they are, actually. You know what I mean, right? They are paying for it." He added, "And they're OK with it because they understand that's fair."

Things like that.

I made no false claims.

Maybe an unrealistic prediction with zero states, though it's possible.

But 25% unemployment is realistic.

Arguing semantics on a current vs. future event doesn't change the fact that it is an absurd statement and that making such absurd comments is something that you should hold yourself above. Don't be like Trump.

At least I don't post like dunes runner, being really ridiculous and acting like it's all believable.

Yes, there seems to be states that are totally locked into one party, and in the case of my statement would never vote for a Democrat.

But things change over time.

JFK in 1960 won a block of southern states including Texas. But he lost California.

Same thing with Jimmy Carter in 1976.

Reagan won 49 states in 1984.

Nixon won 49 states in 1972.

Carter was a nice and likable person but only won 6 states as the incumbent in 1980 because the world was kind of falling apart at the time.

Well, the world is falling apart right now.

And Trump in no way is nice and likable.

His only card that he can play in his favor has been the economy. And that's going to sh!t.

People are more politically polarized right now, and there seems to be a pretty small middle ground of people that move from one party to another.

And even they really don't move. It's more like some without party affiliations either vote or don't vote.

All it takes to swing a pretty red state is for a lot of disgusted people to not vote and it's like running on a muddy XC course that levels the field a bit.

Trump has high ratings among Republicans but has also made that party smaller.

Trump held rallies for Republican Roy Moore but the people of Alabama voted for Democrat Doug Jones.

He rallied for the Republican governor candidate in Kentucky and they voted for the Democrat.

He rallied for the Republican governor candidate in Louisiana and they voted for the Democrat.

Those are some really red states.

I think they'd go for Biden over Trump if the economy goes the way I think it's going to go.

Carter was likable but lost to a more likable leader. Biden is no Reagan.

Dunes is a troll and shouldn't be your benchmark of acceptable behavior.