Quite interesting, but only really applicable to events that last at least a few days.
Unfortunately the 3000-mile race cited was won by the since-disgraced Robert Young.
I have repeatedly tried to demonstrate that under modern, efficient conditions & good roads, a minimum of 40-50 miles per day is needed to get close enough to your limit to force an adjustment. A talented runner can certainly handle more, but the 22 miles a day cited for the race in the article clearly didn’t result in the changes that we saw in Trans Am (1992-95) or Trans Australia (2001); 43-46 miles a day was used in those earlier events.
I based my mileages on the 50-60 miles a day I was able to do at the Sri Chinmoy races (best organized in the world & far more user-friendly than my own transcons).
Calories: I find the limit is closer to 10,000 per day.
Who knew you had to dial it back when switching from sprints to ultras!
Original paper is here:
"The study started with the Race Across the USA in which athletes ran 3,080 miles from California to Washington DC in 140 days." That = 22 miles per day
"Arthur 'Al' Howie (September 16, 1945 – June 21, 2016) was a Canadian long-distance runner who won more than fifty marathons, ultramarathons, and multiday races in over two decades, including the 1991 Trans Canada Highway run (7295 kilometers)..." That = 100+ kilometers/day = 62+ miles/day
("Two weeks after running across Canada [Al] won the Sri Chinmoy 1300 Miler in New York improving on his own world record time.")
Don't know if it's accurate, but one article states "Pour maintenir ce régime, il ingurgitait près de 13 000 calories par jour..."
Then there was 61-year-old Cliff Young who ran (and won) a 566 mile race with NO stopping, NO sleeping:
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/young.html
And, of course, Dean Karnazes, who, among other feats, ran a marathon to the South Pole in −13 °F temperatures without snowshoes and won the Badwater Ultramarathon, running the 135 miles across Death Valley in 120 °F temperatures.
I have no idea whether these feats exceed the supposed limits (I could not find a way to compare results in the cited paper; was hoping for a calculator or understandable equation re: calories/miles/day or whatever).
Agreed. Why talk calories when all performances are already reckoned in miles?
Kouros, in his 1000-mile WR (96 miles a day) stormed out at 107 miles a day for 6 days, but his “tired” pace after that was also 81 miles a day!
If Bekele was bothered to run 3000 miles he would literally desiccate the doors off the current ultra records by enough time that a flight would be required for the ultra community to reach him again. If you want to see the limit of human endurance, look no further https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNf6acRqHp8
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Guessing “decimate?” Reduce by a tenth originally.
Banana Bread wrote:
If Bekele was bothered to run 3000 miles he would literally desiccate the doors off the current ultra records by enough time that a flight would be required for the ultra community to reach him again. If you want to see the limit of human endurance, look no further
Nope, he won't.
Banana Bread has no clue when it comes to ultrarunning.
jesseriley wrote:
Calories: I find the limit is closer to 10,000 per day.
Based on what data? You're just passing some hot air with nothing to back it up.
Well, for instance, the 3100-mile record of ca. 75 miles a day for six weeks can use up such amounts according to standardized measurements, but calories are meaningless since metabolism varies, weight varies, and humans adjust during the effort.
In Trans Am, many (but not all) runners lost weight initially, then settled to a super fit weight after 3-6 weeks. In my personal first multiday, my intake was close to 10,000 calories a day the first time & I lost about a pound a day & lost 12 more pounds afterward (reaching 158 lbs @ 6’2”). I looked like I was back in high school, but each subsequent event was less traumatic in weight loss, less difficult to take enough nutrition.
Banana bread is not good for you wrote:
Banana Bread wrote:
If Bekele was bothered to run 3000 miles he would literally desiccate the doors off the current ultra records by enough time that a flight would be required for the ultra community to reach him again. If you want to see the limit of human endurance, look no further
Nope, he won't.
Banana Bread has no clue when it comes to ultrarunning.
Are we really just limiting his no clueness to just ultrarunning?
His shtick is getting very old and and tiring.
Banana bread is not good for you wrote:
Banana Bread wrote:
If Bekele was bothered to run 3000 miles he would literally desiccate the doors off the current ultra records by enough time that a flight would be required for the ultra community to reach him again. If you want to see the limit of human endurance, look no further
Nope, he won't.
Banana Bread has no clue when it comes to ultrarunning.
What is there to know? It is just a matter of literally slowing down and jogging for a long time.
Banana bread is not good for you wrote:
Banana Bread wrote:
If Bekele was bothered to run 3000 miles he would literally desiccate the doors off the current ultra records by enough time that a flight would be required for the ultra community to reach him again. If you want to see the limit of human endurance, look no further
Nope, he won't.
Banana Bread has no clue when it comes to ultrarunning.
Great point Banana Bread. Imagine how much Bolt could smash the 3000 miles record by if he tried. He can cover 100m well under 10 seconds.
Al Howie was the dude who inspired Frank Meza!!!!
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Banana Bread wrote:
What is there to know? It is just a matter of literally slowing down and jogging for a long time.
That's exactly it!
But it's a lot more difficult that you think.
Try it and you will see.
Ggfkdvjjh wrote:
The runner chick in the screenshot has a better a$$ than Kara goucher
Good spotting
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
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