Shocking: Pulitzer prize winning biographer says FBI has a tape of MLK Jr laughing as a fellow pastor raped a woman

Fake news. Please find me just one link to a legitimate news source covering this "story".

WHY is this thread still up?

Adult in the room wrote:

WHY is this thread still up?

LOL! And the mock / parallel thread with the same title replacing MLKs name with Rojos has been deleted. Seems about right for the alt-right white nationalists who run this site.

DELETE THIS THREAD!

I've thought about deleting it. But then keep coming to why it should be deleted. I don't think just because something makes me uncomfortable means it should be deleted. The OP draws a conclusion that I disagree with from an article that is in the news. It has some pretty serious unproven allegations but they are coming from what appears to be a legit King biographer.

What is wrong with letting people discuss this?

I think the most problematic thing is it tries to present the allegations as fact in the headline, and use the word "rape". But I think anyone who reads the thread can see these are allegations and this is one guys opinion.

I see there are articles on this in the Times of London and more reputable papers than the Daily Mail.

That's where I stand. So I don't see the problem in letting people discuss these explosive allegations. Would it be better if the OP did it in a more nuanced way. Of course.

The myth and aura of any great human will never match the reality. We're all sinners and fall short of ideal. Not that all sins are equal, but pretending these tapes or summaries aren't out there doesn't make them go away.

Let's just take the affairs and ignore the other allegations. I think it's well established by MLK scholars that he had extra marital affairs. Should that diminish in anyway what MLK did for the civil rights movement? Not at all.

I often think learning to deal with and discuss things that make us uncomfortable is better than ignoring them so that's why for now I'm leaving it up.

But I could come to the conclusion my judgement is wrong.

fake-news wrote:

Fake news. Please find me just one link to a legitimate news source covering this "story".

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL UP?

Why are people asking why this thread is still up?

What’s wrong with the people posting this garbage? Your country is SERIOUSLY f**ked up.

Now after reading this I see the Sunday Times was the one publication to publish the story. The Daily Mail just rewrote their story.

Many other reputable organizations turned it down, not because the story wasn't well written, but that it published allegations against an icon that make many of us comfortable. It doesn't fit the narrative built around MLK.

Thus I think it's even more important to leave up this thread.

Here's a tweet from the magazine explaining why it is publishing the story.

https://twitter.com/StandpointMag/status/1132585330090106880

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Doadeer wrote:

Some people in this thread come across as almost giddy. Whether or not these accusations are true, these people believe them to be true.

What kind of person would be giddy at the idea of this being true? That person would have to be just as bad as what they think MLK to be.

I assume conservate people would be more likely to enjoy dirt on MLK Jr., but obviously there are conservative leaders, including a president, that have achieved similar levels of adultery. The rape story sounds like BS.

MLK was a Republican SJW, in case you didn't know it. The Democratic Party is the Party of slavery, lynchings, KKK, Jim Crow and segregation. They still support racist policies.

This exposes the FBI even more. Then as in now, the FBI has/is been engaging in illegal spying to bring down Republican political figures. This needs to end, and all those involved need to be in prison.

wejo wrote:

fake-news wrote:

Fake news. Please find me just one link to a legitimate news source covering this "story".

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/martin-luther-king-had-45-lovers-secret-fbi-cache-reveals-qf0p2fx3bhttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/revealed-martin-luther-kings-secret-and-sordid-sex-life/news-story/7508ee03b7157268aceb9816a1c0a72f

Wejo. COWARD.

RIP HIS STATUES DOWN! RIP EVERY STREET SIGN WITH MLK ON IT DOWN!!!!!!

Many suspected this , and now are coming to fruition.

Fake news.

This thread may as well have been started by a Russian troll. The tapes are sealed. Nobody knows whats in them.

Many people in the FBI hated MLK and his civil rights movement. If they had a tape of MLK participating in a rape, they would have used it to bring him down instead of creating a martyr out of him. Or leaked it to the media.

It beggars belief that the FBI caught MLK committing a crime and gave him a pass.

I do believe he had affairs but so what?

Many American presidents had love affairs including the founding fathers. Your own trump cheated on his wife when he was hospitalized.

Joplas wrote:

Many people in the FBI hated MLK and his civil rights movement. If they had a tape of MLK participating in a rape, they would have used it to bring him down instead of creating a martyr out of him. Or leaked it to the media.

It beggars belief that the FBI caught MLK committing a crime and gave him a pass.

I do believe he had affairs but so what?

Many American presidents had love affairs including the founding fathers. Your own trump cheated on his wife when he was hospitalized.

+10000

F*** wejo and his incredibly biased "journalism."

wejo wrote:

Now after reading this I see the Sunday Times was the one publication to publish the story. The Daily Mail just rewrote their story.

Many other reputable organizations turned it down, not because the story wasn't well written, but that it published allegations against an icon that make many of us comfortable. It doesn't fit the narrative built around MLK.

Thus I think it's even more important to leave up this thread.

Here's a tweet from the magazine explaining why it is publishing the story.

https://twitter.com/StandpointMag/status/1132585330090106880

No, it looks like it was published in some magazine called "Standpoint" that I've never heard of but seems to be right-leaning:

My problem with the thread is 100% the title. If the title were, "MLK alleged to have 40 marital affairs [etc]" then I think it might be fine. Stating things as fact, calling him a monster, etc, is sensationalist -- and there's only fourth-hand evidence. If I understand correctly, it's an article about an article about some reactions to some recordings.

In addition, the FBI is known to have behaved illegally in many ways at the time so I don't even know how carefully we should trust this:

The Daily Mail says in the article, "FBI director J Edgar Hoover ordered the surveillance of King in an effort to undermine his power amid fears he could have links to the Communist Party. The intelligence service carried out surveillance on a number of civil rights figures and suspected communists and they had an interest in smearing their reputation."

MLK represents freedom and equality to hundreds of millions of people. This is not one of those cases where a sensationalist attention-grabbing headline should get equal weight to the facts of the article, which people aren't even able to read. Even if the allegations in the headline of the thread are 100% correct, this is not the way to present them.

“In all honesty, in all fairness, it happened,”

- Rev. Ralph David Abernathy

https://people.com/archive/a-bitter-battle-erupts-over-the-last-hours-of-martin-luther-king-vol-32-no-18/