Eliud Kipchoge / Ineos sub 2 marathon attempt October 13 in London Official Thread

What mattters wrote:

He needs a car for drafting again. That was a big factor in Italy.

No it wasn't:

Epo is a helluva drug

What's the legality of having the pacing car with the laser line? It didn't have a specialized fairing that he was tucked inside of. I understood that the rotating pacers and moving drink hand-ups made the first attempt ineligible for WR consideration? If the car/laser thing is legit, why not get rid of the other stuff so that if he breaks 2:00, it's a legit record? I imagine that his training partners and some other highly paid rabbits (a start wedge of 15-20 that dwindles to three or so after 35K) could lay down the pace through 38 - 40K and leave Eliud to go remaining distance alone.

Apart from this challenge EK has nothing else to prove, so why not?, plus big ?.

We all use chemicals everyday so stop with the weird save the polar bears protest stuff

He’s won multiple times the two most competitive major marathons in the world in Berlin and London. Let’s face it Boston, NY, Chicago, and Tokyo are JV races.

He has an Olympic gold medal

He has the world record but is still 1:40 away from breaking two at Berlin. That’s a lot!!!

He’s 34 and most likely within 1-2 years will slow

A billionaire throws a lot of money at him and says I will make this happen in the most ideal conditions possible.

He is the most humble, hard working, and talented endurance athlete ever

Just gonna enjoy this!!!!

UA Runner wrote:

What I find funny, is how a lot of people are saying "hurry before it's too late!" or "Hope Kipchoge makes it to Boston before he's too old!"

The dude ran 2:02 just a week ago. Why anyone thinks he's on the path to decline is beyond me. I tend to think the only reason he isn't going faster, is because there isn't anyone seriously challenging him.

The thing is, a runner's decline often occurs hard and fast and you never know when it's gonna happen.

"A major marketing campaign will publicise the run and live coverage will be broadcast across the world, both on traditional and digital channels. Tens of thousands of spectators are expected to attend.

Easy via CrowdsOnDemand .

Non-racist thumbs up to you my friend, well put.

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800 dude wrote:

What mattters wrote:

He needs a car for drafting again. That was a big factor in Italy.

No it wasn't:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/uncovering-aerodynamic-trickery-behind-nikes-breaking-ferguson/

Great article, thanks- but I think 26 sec is significant. That’s how much the car saved.

The car saved in two other ways- 1) optimal pacing, and 2) not having to think about pacing at all. I don’t know how to quantify the effect, but it’s different from record-eligible conditions.

this was very spontaneous, someone threw a lot of money at him

All about the money.

Kipsang and Bekele should sign up for Revel and get a non-record eligible sub-2 hour marathon TOMORROW! What's the difference? First is first.

Ackley wrote:

Article from this morning

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/06/ineos-eliud-kipchoge-attempt-break-marathon-two-hour-barrier-london

Its not superhuman, its assisted. Superhuman would be breaking it legitimately.

Meh.

doctorj wrote:

Gimme a break wrote:

I'm betting that $2 million precludes what some random know-it-all on a crappy message board thinks.

Definitely

+1

wmmgod wrote:

a sub 2h marathon would make him immortal. *

* first sub 2 on illegal course

Fixed. That * will be immortal too.

Won't really matter, it would be the greatest achievement in running history. It will be remembered forever and if he completes the wmm set, it'll go down as the greatest sportsman of all time.

It won't even compare to any of the sub 1:42 800's. Why is cheating acceptable to you?

It is like Roger Bannister running his 3:59.4 downhill, point-to-point, with a tailwind. NO! The general public may be impressed, but the initiated will reject it. You'll see.

I'm stilll chuckling that INEOS is a chemical company. Are INEOS making the latest PEDs?

Then others should also step in and do it if it is so easy. The whole assisted thing is far less than it's speculated. It's probably all worth 1'-1'30, definitely not more. A 1:59:5x would be worth around 2:00:5x on a course like berlin with good conditions.

26 sec matters for sub2 wrote:

Great article, thanks- but I think 26 sec is significant. That’s how much the car saved.

The car saved in two other ways- 1) optimal pacing, and 2) not having to think about pacing at all. I don’t know how to quantify the effect, but it’s different from record-eligible conditions.

The car also helped the pacers. Probably much more than the `competitors', since they were closer to it.