That's it. I'm calling BS on Brigid Kosgei's London performance

Pity the Foo wrote:

Coevett wrote:

What are you talking about? I'm regularly accused of 'lying' for misspelling names or getting dates wrong by a year or something, and anonymous trolls like you just make stuff up and don't get called out on it.

I'm not going to waste much time here but :

1/ Gunnell and Ohuruogu were about 20 years before Coe became IAAF head, and Cram was still competing when they were, so what the hell have Coe and Cram got to do with it?

2/ UK had the strictest regulations for missed tests at the time. Gunnell missed one test because she checked out of her accommodation early and didn't tell the UKAD her new whereabouts. An inquiry was held which she describes as like being 'interrogated by the police'. Compare this to Kenya in 2019 where the testers text the athletes 24 hours beforehand to let them know and to make sure they have their tea money ready.

3/ Ohuruogu was banned for one year and from the Olympics (by Uk Athletics) forever.

4/ Personally I think Gunnell was dirty as hell.

You have a problem with comprehension perhaps, and a problem with history, no doubt.

Coevett wrote:

Well maybe it's best we don't debate with each other then because I seem to be mistaking statements you make here as arguments rather than random burps.

Coevett wrote:

And I'm pretty sure on at least several times you've clearly stated your belief that Nick Willis setting a pb late in his career was suspicious and evidence that he doped. In fact, one one occasion you agreed that it implied that he didn't dope earlier, but decided in 2015 or thereabouts that 'if he can't beat them, join them' (leaving aside he did beat them in the 2008 Olympic final, or at least all the cheats who haven't so far subsequently failed tests).

casual obsever wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Well maybe it's best we don't debate with each other then because I seem to be mistaking statements you make here as arguments rather than random burps.

Well you continue to react when I write something, but not really to what I wrote. Pointless. Plus, then usually you add some complaints about what you imagined I wrote in the past, but of course didn't. Pointless.

Not sure why you are doing this, but why not. Trolls will be trolls, and this is letsrun after all.

Coevett wrote:

And I'm pretty sure on at least several times you've clearly stated your belief that Nick Willis setting a pb late in his career was suspicious and evidence that he doped. In fact, one one occasion you agreed that it implied that he didn't dope earlier, but decided in 2015 or thereabouts that 'if he can't beat them, join them' (leaving aside he did beat them in the 2008 Olympic final, or at least all the cheats who haven't so far subsequently failed tests).

"pretty sure", "several times", lol. Try to find those imagined statements. Should be easy, since you pretend I wrote that "several times". Good luck!

Coevett wrote:

Pity the Foo wrote:

If only Kosgei were British.

Then she could could enjoy the UKAD's / Crammy's/Seb's all-forgiving embrace whenever doping infractions occurred.

For exampls, the likes of Sally Gunnell and Christina Ohuruogu who went on to become olympic champions and world record holders when they should have been serving bans for missed doping tests.

Except Kosgei hasn't missed any tests, and is not an olympic champion and is not a world record holder! We have supreme brit athletes bang to rights breaking the doping rules but they aren't suspicious???!! What a joke..

What are you talking about? I'm regularly accused of 'lying' for misspelling names or getting dates wrong by a year or something, and anonymous trolls like you just make stuff up and don't get called out on it.

I'm not going to waste much time here but :

1/ Gunnell and Ohuruogu were about 20 years before Coe became IAAF head, and Cram was still competing when they were, so what the hell have Coe and Cram got to do with it?

2/ UK had the strictest regulations for missed tests at the time. Gunnell missed one test because she checked out of her accommodation early and didn't tell the UKAD her new whereabouts. An inquiry was held which she describes as like being 'interrogated by the police'. Compare this to Kenya in 2019 where the testers text the athletes 24 hours beforehand to let them know and to make sure they have their tea money ready.

3/ Ohuruogu was banned for one year and from the Olympics (by Uk Athletics) forever.

4/ Personally I think Gunnell was dirty as hell.

casual obsever wrote:

Coevett wrote:

And I'm pretty sure on at least several times you've clearly stated your belief that Nick Willis setting a pb late in his career was suspicious and evidence that he doped. In fact, one one occasion you agreed that it implied that he didn't dope earlier, but decided in 2015 or thereabouts that 'if he can't beat them, join them' (leaving aside he did beat them in the 2008 Olympic final, or at least all the cheats who haven't so far subsequently failed tests).

"pretty sure", "several times", lol. Try to find those imagined statements. Should be easy, since you pretend I wrote that "several times". Good luck!

He is a 1500 m specialist who after years and years of successfully racing 1500s, including "gold" in 2008, ran his 1500 m PR at age 32. In what world is that normal and not suspicious?

casual obsever wrote:

Coevett wrote:

And even if running a pb at 32 was odd, what would it mean exactly? That he started doping at 31 or 32 and so was clean when he was robbed of the Gold by Kiprop and Ramzi?

Something like that. If you can't beat them, join them.

He was 25 when he was robbed of the Gold in 2008, and ran 3:33 in Monaco in the same year. Maybe after that, yes. Starting around 2010, he literally improved every year instead of going downhill.

His later Monaco races:

2011: PR in 3:31 (age 28)

2012: PR in 3:30 (age 29)

2013: -

2014: PR in 3:29 (age 31)

2015: PR in 3:29 (age 32)

2016: -

2017: 3:34

2018: -

In any case, I think one should disqualify proven drug cheats (like Kiprop) retroactively for life, and in doing so give Willis his long overdue Gold.