Nike ZoomX Vaporfly NEXT% Unveiled

first rule of running wrote:

Not many things in life are as ridiculous as marathon midpackers wearing the Vaporfly. A guy running 3hours for a marathon wearing those shoes is screaming "look at me, I'm a moran".

Will Vaporfly 4% start showing up at Goodwill now?

Aesthetically, I find the look of the flyknit to be way better, so much so that these are offputting to me. I know it's how the shoe performs, but I hate the off-center laces and baggy translucent upper. The oversized swoosh extending onto the toebox is another design detail I could live without.

first rule of running wrote:

Not many things in life are as ridiculous as marathon midpackers wearing the Vaporfly. A guy running 3hours for a marathon wearing those shoes is screaming "look at me, I'm a moran".

Not many things in life are as common as a letsrun poster making condescending remarks. A guy posting stupid things to make himself feel superior is screaming "look at me, I'm a failure at life."

And yes, I'm a 3 hour marathoner with Vaporflys. :) And, in my neck of the woods, I've never been a "midpacker".

Hey dude, if unused and unworn nikes return policy is very good, had mine since start of march and they said because they are unworn and still new i can return for full refund.

Chrisfilm wrote:

first rule of running wrote:

Not many things in life are as ridiculous as marathon midpackers wearing the Vaporfly. A guy running 3hours for a marathon wearing those shoes is screaming "look at me, I'm a moran".

Not many things in life are as common as a letsrun poster making condescending remarks. A guy posting stupid things to make himself feel superior is screaming "look at me, I'm a failure at life."

And yes, I'm a 3 hour marathoner with Vaporflys. :) And, in my neck of the woods, I've never been a "midpacker".

Come on man, even my wife runs a 3 hour marathon. I think he was being generous by calling you a midpacker.

casual observer... wrote:

Chrisfilm wrote:

Not many things in life are as common as a letsrun poster making condescending remarks. A guy posting stupid things to make himself feel superior is screaming "look at me, I'm a failure at life."

And yes, I'm a 3 hour marathoner with Vaporflys. :) And, in my neck of the woods, I've never been a "midpacker".

Come on man, even my wife runs a 3 hour marathon. I think he was being generous by calling you a midpacker.

LOL....Trrruuuueee *2 Chainz Voice

Weird that the swooshstika is so tiny…

Chrisfilm wrote:

first rule of running wrote:

Not many things in life are as ridiculous as marathon midpackers wearing the Vaporfly. A guy running 3hours for a marathon wearing those shoes is screaming "look at me, I'm a moran".

Not many things in life are as common as a letsrun poster making condescending remarks. A guy posting stupid things to make himself feel superior is screaming "look at me, I'm a failure at life."

And yes, I'm a 3 hour marathoner with Vaporflys. :) And, in my neck of the woods, I've never been a "midpacker".

That's some tenacious cherry-picking to find marathons where 3 hours garners even an age group award, let alone podium spot.

No one can compete with Nike atm. They just keep getting better and better. They are so far ahead of everyone else it is funny . Phil Knight you genius

TxMaster wrote:

Check out the 65-69 age group... haha

Let's be realistic - the average marathon finish time last year was over 4 hours for men, so 3 hr marathoner is at least top 10% - so far away from mid-packer.

Midpacker == everyone between #4 and dead last. Suck it up, losers.

Then, what is your problem for the 5th finisher to wear vaporfly? You loser

Youre welcome wrote:

I think everyone owes me a thank you for these new shoes coming out. I bought a pair of 4% FKs a little over a month ago for my fall marathon. Sitting unused in my closet, yet beyond the return timeframe and the box thrown out in

what size?

One of the marketers told me they wanted to name it the 5% but tests only achieved a 4.6% increase.

U r all midpackers wrote:

TxMaster wrote:

Check out the 65-69 age group... haha

Let's be realistic - the average marathon finish time last year was over 4 hours for men, so 3 hr marathoner is at least top 10% - so far away from mid-packer.

Midpacker == everyone between #4 and dead last. Suck it up, losers.

You do know what "middle" means right?

first rule of running wrote:

Not many things in life are as ridiculous as marathon midpackers wearing the Vaporfly. A guy running 3hours for a marathon wearing those shoes is screaming "look at me, I'm a moran".

Even if the shoe didn't make you go faster, it would still be a top marathon shoe for any runner.

Urmommy wrote:

Your mom is a mid pack on my peepee

I'm normally a 10. I'm wondering if I should move up in size for this.

When you look at this shoe from the bottom (there is a picture in the link on the first post), it looks really different than any other shoe. It's almost like they took a regular shoe and bent it sideways a bit. Anyone know what's up with that?

casual observer... wrote:

Chrisfilm wrote:

Not many things in life are as common as a letsrun poster making condescending remarks. A guy posting stupid things to make himself feel superior is screaming "look at me, I'm a failure at life."

And yes, I'm a 3 hour marathoner with Vaporflys. :) And, in my neck of the woods, I've never been a "midpacker".

Come on man, even my wife runs a 3 hour marathon. I think he was being generous by calling you a midpacker.

From NYC Marathon 2018

52,705 finishers

So, top 10% would be 3:29:41 and faster.

Midpackers would fall between 4:09:17 and 4:56:20. So sub-3 is not even close to "midpack." Even sub-4 is ahead of midpack. Dead middle of the pack is 4:32:02.

And dead last was 11:44:10.

Sub-3 is top 2.28%. I'm no expert but I've never hear top 3% described as middle of the pack.

U r all midpackers wrote:

TxMaster wrote:

Check out the 65-69 age group... haha

Let's be realistic - the average marathon finish time last year was over 4 hours for men, so 3 hr marathoner is at least top 10% - so far away from mid-packer.

Midpacker == everyone between #4 and dead last. Suck it up, losers.

Ah thanks for the help. Relatively new here so don't have the letsrun lexicon all worked out.

Is this the point where I call everyone whose 5k is over 15:30 a "hobby jogger" then puff up my chest about that 15:25 I ran 15 years ago? *awaits the letsrun mafia who only recognizes sub-15 as an acceptable 5k*