My Dentist pays $30k a year for a top level Coach

I'll coach you for 20k. email for details

Coaches never say no wrote:

Similar story. My dentist shells out $150 per hour for his personal trainer and has a running coach as well. Why do old guys that aren’t even competitive pay for coaches?

It's a status symbol. In our fallen times, frivolous private instruction has become the new jewelry of the monied class.

Like teenagers comparing dick length.

Why do old guys that aren’t even competitive pay for coaches? Great post by the way. Always laugh at 50 yr old dudes with “coaches”. Who ever needs a coach beyond HS? I know some who do “coaching” and they turn nobody down. If you have decent motivation, what good are coaches?

It's not just old guy- very often it's hobby joggers who want to "feel" like they're good runners.

There is an epidemic in my area of people going to this guy who's claim to coaching is having read Jack Daniel's book.

Problem is, he has no idea how to apply the concepts.

These people prey on new runners who are going to improve no matter what they do.

And for their ego's- they're always saying things like- I have to ask my coach ...

GBohannon wrote:

Coaches never say no wrote:

Always laugh at 50 yr old dudes with “coaches”. Who ever needs a coach beyond HS? I know some who do “coaching” and they turn nobody down. If you have decent motivation, what good are coaches?

I am highly motivated and self-coached myself from 3:21:57 in 2010 down to 2:39:49 in 2013. Then, I quit thinking in late 2014 thinking I had hit “my peak” because I was struggling to drop any more time.

Started up again in 2016 with a coach. Got down to 2:30:39 within a year and then 2:25:17 last fall. Expecting faster this Spring. Coaches can definitely be helpful.

That`s one of all good examples. A good experienced coach knows what`s important and what `s not in the individual training program to get the best results. To be self coached and try to find the best individual way by trial and error can of course be interesting and give self satisfaction , but if one have to choose between self coaching and reach 2:39 and instead reach 2:25 with a pro coach, I think most normal runners chose the last concept ?

scarce orthodontist wrote:

When you're training for the most prestigious of all marathons, the West Wyoming marathon, you hire the best of the best.

Always a good read:

Ask Gene Dykes, (AKA "JustGene" poster here) if a coach makes a difference.

The guys who go to D3 to just run and not study pay 50k per year for mid level coaches

Dentists aren't real doctors.

will be anonymous wrote:

I "am" an online coach. "Am" in parenthesis because I have rejected everyone that has approached me. I am an IAAF Level 5 coach. I don't know anything about someone that runs 5 hours for the Marathon?

It makes no sense to pay a coach that only works with professional runners!! They can not relate in any way to what your needs are. He would be better off going on-line and looking for an average Joe type runner coach that would understand him a little better.

Yup. A bit like paying a college English lit professor to teach your 5 year old to read. Could they do it? Probably, but someone trained in elementary education (ie. kindergarten teacher) will probably be more effective. The extra training and wisdom about reading the college prof has doesn't add anything to a kid who can't yet read, and the college prof does not have specific training/knowledge of how best to approach super basic content.

But like anything, some people are very insistent on having the "most extreme" or "highest level" of a thing, even when this is unnecessary or perhaps detrimental. See sports equipment, cars, etc.

Yes just sign up to be a dentist or medical doctor. Lets not forget the 8 - 15 extra years or school and residency that it takes and what now is costing half a million dollars in loans to become an expert in what the general public now takes for granted.

As the local "elite" but hobby jogger by letsrun standards and certified personal trainer (14s 5k, 2:20s marathon, CSCS and MS in Ex Sci.) I charged $100/hr to coach your running which included running with them (literally added 20 mpw tops of 15min miles to my typical 80-110 mpw). The university football's coach (probaby makes 3-400k) wife was my daily, during the week, customer for 3ish years of grad school while most were once biweekly.

I'm looking make a comeback. I need a good coach to advise me for my upcoming race, the West Wyoming Marathon.

I hope the coach charges the dentist if he fails to cancel within 24-hours of their scheduled appointment.

Coaches never say no wrote:

Similar story. My dentist shells out $150 per hour for his personal trainer and has a running coach as well. Why do old guys that aren’t even competitive pay for coaches? Great post by the way. Always laugh at 50 yr old dudes with “coaches”. Who ever needs a coach beyond HS? I know some who do “coaching” and they turn nobody down. If you have decent motivation, what good are coaches?

I remember some Ginger runner podcast where his wife, Kim, was saying how great her coach was and was telling her she needed to eat double the calories she was already consuming. Seriously we are all different and not sure how coaches preach about things that only work for themselves. Biggest scam ever in my book.

I'm over 55. I ran under 19 minutes last month for a 5k. I ran under 17 minutes when I turned 50. Now what???

it's fake wrote:

Dentists aren't real doctors.

They seem like doctors.

Who the fukk would pay that for a coach. Unless you are Bekele and you are looking to get someone to bring you to a sub 2 hour marathon I don't get this, especially if if they aren't going to become really fast as a result. The dentist must be a tooth fairy if he can afford that.

GBohannon wrote:

Coaches never say no wrote:

Always laugh at 50 yr old dudes with “coaches”. Who ever needs a coach beyond HS? I know some who do “coaching” and they turn nobody down. If you have decent motivation, what good are coaches?

I am highly motivated and self-coached myself from 3:21:57 in 2010 down to 2:39:49 in 2013. Then, I quit thinking in late 2014 thinking I had hit “my peak” because I was struggling to drop any more time.

Started up again in 2016 with a coach. Got down to 2:30:39 within a year and then 2:25:17 last fall. Expecting faster this Spring. Coaches can definitely be helpful.

GBohannon, who is your coach?

will be anonymous wrote:

I "am" an online coach. "Am" in parenthesis

Those are quotation marks.

doctorj wrote:

Dr Toothache wrote:

Are pro coaches willing to coach mediocre runners for the right price?

Ever heard : "money talks, b.s. walks?

No.