When people view your strava routes, does it explain to them where it auto-paused when you stopped for traffic and whatnot? Because that's the first thing I noticed strava doing when I tried it. How much hidden rest does it allow?
Bad Wigins, why would you be that anal? Find courses that you don't have to do that.
Boooooooooooo!
Bad Wigins wrote:
When people view your strava routes, does it explain to them where it auto-paused when you stopped for traffic and whatnot?
Nope. Everything looks better on Strava.
What you see on Strava is not training, it’s digital theatre. Training is sweat. It is hot and cold, rough days and good days. It’s sharing the successes and failures of your teammates.
Races don’t care how pretty you look, or what you can run on a segment when the weather is perfect and you’re feeling good.
Being around other runners you can hear the sounds of skilled feet on the ground, and changes in breathing. You see what experienced runners look like as they move, and absorb the culture of running.
At best, Strava is a way to keep in touch with friends training around the world. At worst it is a hungry monster which leaves behind a trail of injured and discouraged athletes who wonder why they aren’t winning races when all the numbers say that they should.
A lot of the Hola NYNJTC guys post their logs publicly on running2win. I don't think they realize people can look at them since they put comments on some workouts that are just speaking their mind.
I'll tell you my Strava secret...
I stay the h*ll off there because it wasn't making me a better runner at all.
If you're wondering about Strava segments, CRs, and recorded times on the segments, the clock starts when you start the segment and stops when you complete the segment. If you stop your watch, it doesn't matter. It's total elapsed time on a segment. So you can run it like an interval where you stop and take breaks then sprint, but the Strava clock keeps running even when your watch is stopped. I've noticed that the route-matching algorithm has become more generous over time, so cutting corners or running on opposite side of the road will usually still match, and that may be a significant difference in the time it takes to complete. In any case, you can certainly "cheat" at Strava lots of different ways (e.g. by using a car or bike to complete a segment), but there is a way to flag results or activities that you think are fraudulent, miscategorized, or bad gps data. There is also a subtle different between "laps" and "splits", but I can't remember the details. I think the clock keeps running for one but not the other.
Bad Wigins wrote:
When people view your strava routes, does it explain to them where it auto-paused when you stopped for traffic and whatnot? Because that's the first thing I noticed strava doing when I tried it. How much hidden rest does it allow?
Strava or it didn't happen wrote:
https://www.outsideonline.com/2394274/scott-fauble-boston-marathon
I enjoy hearing podcasts and reading interviews from runners, I genuinely do. I try and learn as much and apply it practically. Strava though, almost too transparent. I stay off. Whether you admit it or not, you stalk other runners and it becomes a head game. We learned this with Facebook and other social medias.
There Be Dragons wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
When people view your strava routes, does it explain to them where it auto-paused when you stopped for traffic and whatnot?
Nope. Everything looks better on Strava.
What you see on Strava is not training, it’s digital theatre. Training is sweat. It is hot and cold, rough days and good days. It’s sharing the successes and failures of your teammates.
Races don’t care how pretty you look, or what you can run on a segment when the weather is perfect and you’re feeling good.
Being around other runners you can hear the sounds of skilled feet on the ground, and changes in breathing. You see what experienced runners look like as they move, and absorb the culture of running.
At best, Strava is a way to keep in touch with friends training around the world. At worst it is a hungry monster which leaves behind a trail of injured and discouraged athletes who wonder why they aren’t winning races when all the numbers say that they should.
At best it is a simple convenient way to accumulate workout data you can analyze to improve your training.
anyone know his strava handle?
i did a search for his name and got nothing
Letsrun knuckleheads wrote:
anyone know his strava handle?
i did a search for his name and got nothing
Scott Faubs or go to any of the segments along the Boston Marathon route and you should see him at the top of the board.
Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:
the Strava clock keeps running even when your watch is stopped.
the first thing I saw strava do was after I hit the start button, but didn't start moving yet, the clock eventually paused.
Then my leisurely bike ride through stop and go traffic came back 18mph average, while my well-calibrated speedometer was maxing out at that. This despite overestimating the distance by a quarter mile, even though it cut about the same amount of distance by saying I flew over a river instead of going the long way over the bridge.
Clock only "keeps running" on times for segments or personal records. No doubt the GPS can be unreliable and inaccurate at times. The river/bridge issue is because the elevation data uses the earth's surface and does not always have corrections for infrastructure like bridges. If you have a watch or bike computer with an altimeter, there is a setting to use that data instead. My take on Strava is that it's a great tool for logging mileage, keeping track of shoe mileage, and getting a rough idea of what friends are up to with their training. I do use it to compare my own runs over similar courses, and I've chased a few segment records, but try to keep it in perspective as just another tool that sometimes provides some useful information.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:
the Strava clock keeps running even when your watch is stopped.
the first thing I saw strava do was after I hit the start button, but didn't start moving yet, the clock eventually paused.
Then my leisurely bike ride through stop and go traffic came back 18mph average, while my well-calibrated speedometer was maxing out at that. This despite overestimating the distance by a quarter mile, even though it cut about the same amount of distance by saying I flew over a river instead of going the long way over the bridge.
I run intervals and fartlek on treadmills, download my Garmin 220 data to Garmin Connect and then to Strava. Apparently, during the interval phase section, Garmin connect stops recording all together which means I lose about 1/2 mile every 3 miles of running intervals. This error is then compounded when I look at the Strava data for that same workout. Its a big mess. I have o such problems when running straight paces.
As far as I can tell he doesn't use strava but you can find his training log on the NAZ elite website that uses Final Surge.
choose how you use it wrote:
There Be Dragons wrote:
Nope. Everything looks better on Strava.
What you see on Strava is not training, it’s digital theatre. Training is sweat. It is hot and cold, rough days and good days. It’s sharing the successes and failures of your teammates.
Races don’t care how pretty you look, or what you can run on a segment when the weather is perfect and you’re feeling good.
Being around other runners you can hear the sounds of skilled feet on the ground, and changes in breathing. You see what experienced runners look like as they move, and absorb the culture of running.
At best, Strava is a way to keep in touch with friends training around the world. At worst it is a hungry monster which leaves behind a trail of injured and discouraged athletes who wonder why they aren’t winning races when all the numbers say that they should.
At best it is a simple convenient way to accumulate workout data you can analyze to improve your training.
Unfortunately, it turns out that your entire cerebral cortex is still trapped in your descending colon.
It's a very 'tiny' cerebral cortex.
I am sorry about that.
naia champ wrote:
As far as I can tell he doesn't use strava but you can find his training log on the NAZ elite website that uses Final Surge.
He is on Strava.
https://www.strava.com/pros/7780234Does Eliud Kipchoge use Strava? Did Bob Kempainen need Strave. Fauble want to know the secrets of his competition. Not posting your workouts on Strava or anywhere doesn't make you arrogant. WTF?!
WTF???!!! wrote:
Does Eliud Kipchoge use Strava? Did Bob Kempainen need Strave. Fauble want to know the secrets of his competition. Not posting your workouts on Strava or anywhere doesn't make you arrogant. WTF?!
Strava wasn't around for bob. And for Eliud, GPS watches don't work well in Kenya. Don't know why so many on here are triggered by Strava, I just see it as a fun way to look at how others are training.