Crawling to end of the finish line: Overdone?

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cpaiglesias wrote:

My friends daughter took a video of him (my friend) running up the street just before making the left turn into Boylston street. So very close to the finish line. Coincidently in the video you see him run past the marine guy. He is walking, limping, but walking nonetheless and looks capable of making it all the way, about 10 meters before making the left turn into Boylston.

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Here is the video. You can see him walking the first few seconds. He is clearly limping and hurting. But I don't know about having to crawl about 800 meters later.

I see what you mean. Meanwhile, just a short distance ahead of him in the video, there's someone (a woman, I think) who is really struggling and staggering around, rather like Gabriela Andersen-Schiess in the 1984 Olympic marathon.

running it hard wrote:

RunningCarson wrote:

The girls side of my cross team is legendary in this sense. At last years state championship 5 girls collapsed or “passed out” at the end of the race. 4 of them were from my school. Not saying it’s a learned behavior but the girls on my team sure do get praised for their ‘hard work’ when they pass out.

I've collapsed at the end of races before. It just means you went to your absolute limit. If you don't need to lay down for a good minute or two after a race, you didn't give it your best effort.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but if you watch the best athletes in the world, they often keep jogging through and afterward, and often take victory laps. So if you're really in shape, you don't have that problem.

haveyounoticed wrote:

running it hard wrote:

I've collapsed at the end of races before. It just means you went to your absolute limit. If you don't need to lay down for a good minute or two after a race, you didn't give it your best effort.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but if you watch the best athletes in the world, they often keep jogging through and afterward, and often take victory laps. So if you're really in shape, you don't have that problem.

That's because they don't go to their absolute max.

I'm on Team Suspicious. I ran this Monday and I have way more photos, and I think from way more places on the course. Did he actually run the whole race, or did someone bib mule for him for the first half? Can anyone ID locations of those photos? Mine are from further out with more background detail, so it's hard to tell if they're in the same locations as his are.

After his finish line photos, there are two photos of him just behind #832, who passed the 30k mark just four seconds ahead of him (12:05:15 to 12:05:19).

I'm from the days before race chips, photo packages, and running with electronic things strapped to one's arm. I'm curious why the sequence of his photos show him running with that thing on his left arm for a while, then apparently running without it on his arm but apparently holding something in his right hand (first by his side, then next to his ear), then apparently walking while doing something with his hands on the front of his shorts. When he's crawling to the finish, that thing is back on his left arm. What's that all about?

Girl eating Cheez-its wrote:

I'm on Team Suspicious. I ran this Monday and I have way more photos, and I think from way more places on the course. Did he actually run the whole race, or did someone bib mule for him for the first half? Can anyone ID locations of those photos? Mine are from further out with more background detail, so it's hard to tell if they're in the same locations as his are.

Does he have a Strava? If it's not on Strava, it didn't happen.

(Actually, it appears to me that he's running only in the first eight photos following the finish line sequence, while that thing is strapped to his left arm, and is walking in all of the photos thereafter.)

Push it to the limit wrote:

haveyounoticed wrote:

Maybe you haven't noticed, but if you watch the best athletes in the world, they often keep jogging through and afterward, and often take victory laps. So if you're really in shape, you don't have that problem.

That's because they don't go to their absolute max.

I'm guessing you haven't watched many races and haven't ran many races.

Being too tired to keep pushing at 4:30 pace has nothing to do with being too tired to stand.

I see an attention seeking jackass.

If you’ve never bonked in a marathon than you should have no opinion. You don’t know what happens to your body when glycogen depleted in conjunction with cramping. If it’s bad enough you can’t walk cause your legs won’t move. Yeah he probably paced himself poorly and/or didn’t fuel right. However getting across that line was a feat. If the news wanted to interview you why not? Kudos to him

I bet you $50 he walked to his hotel from the finish line...

At first, I was sure he was a showboat faker. Interestingly, all the posts have convinced me he's not. I ran Boston in 2016 when it was hot and sunny with a headwind and I ran 7 minutes slower than planned, finishing with a BQ 2 minutes under the standard. I made it to the finish line running as fast as I could, but as soon as I stepped over the line and started walking, my legs began wobbling and collapsing. I required assistance to stay upright. I kept telling the volunteers that I would be okay but as soon as they let go I started falling. I was not faking. After walking with assistance for under 10 minutes, I was able to walk back to my hotel without support. Believe me, I did not want to bother anyone and if I did not get help I could have held on to a solid object to remain standing to recover as I have in previous marathons. It was embarrassing being unable to stand up unaided. I trained properly and even did heat training but when you push yourself to the limit as I did, I was wrecked.

I had trouble getting up curbs and up the stairs to my hotel room. Just an hour later, I was perfectly fine but just a bit sore.

I would hope he is not faking.

As a runner, I know there's probably thousand of equally worthy stories on the course that day, many of which are probably far more noteworthy. But that's not what catches the media's attention.

How about the runner who was in the crawler's shape 5 months ago, but somehow found the guts and spirit and dedication to up their training to a level where they could finish the marathon standing?

How about the runner who ran just as hard but pulled back a notch on the hills to ensure that they would have a finish kick and be ensured they would finish and finish well?

What a non-runner might not know is that finishing a marathon with a respectable effort is often no less painful and excrutiating as what the crawler epitomizes.

So, as a runner, I'm not impressed. I would hope the crawler approaches the next one a little differently, though.

Hey Dad, your daughter could have exercise induced anaphylaxis (EIA). I had symptoms like that for years and didn't know what it was till I went into full anaphylaxis. My stomach distress and vomiting was an allergic reaction.

Mine is food related, there's a bunch of stuff that I can't eat within 24 hours of running (aka, never). It's kind of cool, you can do an allergy test for these foods with no reaction, send me out for a quick run, and I react like crazy. Yes, I still run, but with benadryl always and epinephrine if I'm going hard or the weather is extreme.

If she's still running and gets these symptoms, carry an antihistamine and see a doctor for an epipen or Auvi-Q (much smaller).

I know this sounds crazy, but EIA is a real thing and her symptoms sound just like mine. Totally manageable once you know what it is.

Took this guy 33+ minutes to complete his final 1.4 miles. Seriously....What was he doing to prepare for the last 50 yards?

Lofty Goals wrote:

Push it to the limit wrote:

That's because they don't go to their absolute max.

I'm guessing you haven't watched many races and haven't ran many races.

Being too tired to keep pushing at 4:30 pace has nothing to do with being too tired to stand.

Watch any Japanese race, that's how real men race. Going all out. "If I am still standing at the end of the race, hit me with a board and knock me down, because that means I didn't run hard enough." - Steve Jones

SJWHippie wrote:

I see an attention seeking jackass.

and I see a fvcking gay, skinny-a$$, pvssy boy.

Our favorite Boston runner had a piece on him done at NYC!