Kipchoge's dilemma

What a dilemma to have. Dude can ride that WR for the rest of forever.

And he can show up to any marathon major he wants, travel paid, first class hotel paid, appearance fee paid, sit in the pack until he feels like it, smoke everyone, and get paid for winning.

He doesn't give a sh!t about people's expectations of him now.

Nice dilemma to have.

Sesamoiditis wrote:

I would think like most of us he want's to set a personal best in his next race.

Subtle.

These are all problems in your mind. I doubt if Kipchoge even thinks about these things. Why? Because there is a lot of competition at the marathon distance. It's hard even for Kipchoge to win London/Berlin. That's all he thinks about doing. WRs mean nothing in big races. They are not loss insurance. Kipchoge was winning marathons long before he set the WR.

I think Kipchoge should try to win/CR all of the World Marathon Majors before he retires.

I would love to see Kipchoge take on Kamworor in a half! He's obviously the king of the marathon, it would be fun to see him at another distance, and Kamworor in his home event seems like the most worthy opponent out there right now. I'm sure it could figure into Tokyo prep and fans would love it! Mo Farah is on the up and up on the roads too, not Kipchoge level but if he keeps improving I think he can run a pretty nasty half as well.

This "World Marathon Majors" thing is BS.

I would like to see him win London and NYC in 2019, win the Olympic marathon in 2020, then bow out at Boston in 2021.

OP be real wrote:

Did Bekele or El Guerrouj have dilemmas after setting their records op? They didn't, they just kept winning anyway because that is the name of the game.

A point will come in your life when you will set your last pr, you gonna quit or keep on runnin?

El G did have a delemma - he had the 1500/Mike WRs and TONS of fast times, but no Olympic Gold. Once he got that (and another in the 5k to boot), he called it quits.

Excuse me, “mile”

I'd like to see him go for the half marathon record, then the 10000m record. The former he can absolutely get. The latter he might not still have the speed to do it. But conversions suggest it would be well within his capabilities.

McMillan calculator gives way below the world record as comparable performances at every distance from 500m up.

Statsgangster's calculator uses two times. I input his 3k time of 7:25 and the marathon of 2:01:39. It gives 12:44/26:33/58:30.

I couldn't find an IAAF points table that included marathon.

I can't believe how many morans are on this thread. For you imbeciles that don't know what you're talking about, let's review a little history here.

In Berlin 2018, Kipchoge was going to attempt the world record from the gun (duh, do you remember that?). He had 3 pacers for himself. From the start of the race, no other runners went with him - it was Kipchoge against the clock.

I believe (I could be wrong) that Kipchoge wanted to go thru the half in 61:30. This whole thing was set up for the WR. In a sense, it wasn't a "race." It would've only been a race if he couldn't handle the pace and someone came from behind.

THAT'S MY POINT! : and that's the dilemma. Does Kipchoge do that again - say - maybe he wants to hit the half in 61:00 with special pacers - or does he just decide to go with the lead pack and their pacers and go for the win.

Sheesh. Morans!

You’re an idiot with bad “takes” on running.

Because this thread was premised on a somewhat absurd question, i'm going to suggest an absurd prompt. When do you think Kipchoge will first lose, and how will it happen? (I suppose "never because he'll retire first" is an acceptable answer as well).

I have a pretty hard time even conceptualizing the idea of Kipchoge losing. As far as I know there have only been two instances in which a competitor was actually in front of Kipchoge (in a meaningful way, not just because he was sitting in a pack), and one of those lasted not more than 30ish seconds (albeit very late in the race). My vote is that he won't actually lose, persay, - but rather at some point there will be a setback and he will be forced to DNS from injury. Or possibly compete at less than 100%, although in that event it seems like he would still win. I think he makes it through Tokyo forsure, and then in the neighborhood of 2022 registers his first DNS or DNF (or less likely in my mind, even a loss*). Kipchoge doesn't strike me as someone who would DNF under any reasonable circumstances (unlike another GOAT we know...), so I would only expect the DNF if he had registered a setback in training and then realized by mile 10 or 20 that his body was damgaged / seriously injured and he had no choice but to pack it in.

*Finally just for the record, I do consider a DNF to be a legitimate loss but am just distinguishing between the two cases of DNF'ing vs finishing not in first. I wouldn't necessarily call a DNS a "loss" but would say that it constitutes the end of a winning streak.

xcvbcxbv wrote:

I'd like to see him go for the half marathon record, then the 10000m record. The former he can absolutely get. The latter he might not still have the speed to do it. But conversions suggest it would be well within his capabilities.

McMillan calculator gives way below the world record as comparable performances at every distance from 500m up.

Statsgangster's calculator uses two times. I input his 3k time of 7:25 and the marathon of 2:01:39. It gives 12:44/26:33/58:30.

I couldn't find an IAAF points table that included marathon.

Kipchoge's best over 3K is something like 7:27 and not 7:25. 7:25 is Bekele.

Why should he waste his training on a crappy, slow course.

I think Kipchoge gave a hint on an interview shortly after his WR. He said he had run 2:00 (Monza), 2:01, 2:03 and 2:04, but was still missing 2:02. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his target for London 2019.

I think he may be wise enough to end his career on a high with a Tokyo 2020 gold medal - and in the meantime having picked up the record number of wins in Berlin and London (as well as overall world marathon majors wins).

It would be a pity to see him follow KB's footsteps - multipying DNF's and DNS's, to the point of no longer being invited to the WMM's or being dropped off the lead pack at 30K (and DNF 1 mile from the finish line) in a tier 2 marathon like Amsterdam. Or even Gebre's, having DNF'd in 3 out of his last 4 marathon, and having arrived 4th in Tokyo 2012.

Really hope he is wiser than his two competitors for GOAT.

Your post isn't about Kipchoge's dilemma. Your post is about your own dilemma on how to write a catchy post after Kipchoge's next race.

I'd walk away from running as the GOAT. Maybe get into competitive eating or something not even related to running.