Captain El Wron'go wrote:
short answer no wrote:
No, on one of Rodger Bannisters record attempts someone did this, where he jogged till Bannister lapped him. That attempt was DQ.
That was when he broke 4. So no, it was not disqualified.
No it didn't happen.
in the way of the Japanese wrote:
smokeshow wrote:
Most of our sub 2:10 marathon runners of the last decade have had a “split focus” and ran track races.
Exactly, American men run timid. They fear the distance. They need to embrace a kamikaze spirit. Go balls to the walls. Attack the marathon(instead of bashing Stinson for crashing in the latter stages of the marathon, we should congratulate him for going out so hard and testing himself as opposed to taking it safe). US men need to start focusing on the 30 kilometer point of the marathon. Most of the elite Japanese men go through 30 k point in about 90 minutes(partly due to them training in kilometers and having 3 minute kilometers being the focus as opposed to US men having 5 minute miles being the focus). While the elite US men hit it around 92-93 minutes. This also starts young. Most US kids are lazy and there parents are soft. They don't push there kids hard enough. US kids under train, are afraid to train hard and put in the mileage. A few things America needs to do: introduce ekidens(road relays), and road races( about 10-20 kilometers in length) to the collegiate and high school programs programs.
It’s crazy to think stinson ran 27:54 nearly 4 years ago. He’s been running fine at various distances but I really hope he can nail a good marathon. The fact that all these guys are running 28:30-29:00 just shows how much more talent stinson has. Part of me wonders if he should go back to track if he can’t get a decent marathon showing soon
Now or never wrote:
It’s crazy to think stinson ran 27:54 nearly 4 years ago. He’s been running fine at various distances but I really hope he can nail a good marathon. The fact that all these guys are running 28:30-29:00 just shows how much more talent stinson has. Part of me wonders if he should go back to track if he can’t get a decent marathon showing soon
Droddy has a better half marathon time and a 10K time that is close to Stinson's so I wouldn't say Stinson has more tallent.
well actually wrote:
Now or never wrote:
It’s crazy to think stinson ran 27:54 nearly 4 years ago. He’s been running fine at various distances but I really hope he can nail a good marathon. The fact that all these guys are running 28:30-29:00 just shows how much more talent stinson has. Part of me wonders if he should go back to track if he can’t get a decent marathon showing soon
Droddy has a better half marathon time and a 10K time that is close to Stinson's so I wouldn't say Stinson has more tallent.
Stinson has a better 3k, 5k, 10k, and marathon time...lol...so I would say he has more talent. Also, droddy may have a better HM time than stinson but every time I’ve seen them race that distance Stinson comes up in the results in front of Droddy. Prove me wrong, I’ll wait.
well actually facts wrote:
well actually wrote:
Droddy has a better half marathon time and a 10K time that is close to Stinson's so I wouldn't say Stinson has more tallent.
Stinson has a better 3k, 5k, 10k, and marathon time...lol...so I would say he has more talent. Also, droddy may have a better HM time than stinson but every time I’ve seen them race that distance Stinson comes up in the results in front of Droddy. Prove me wrong, I’ll wait.
Way to cherry pick stats. Droddy beat Stinson by 30 seconds last time they raced at 10K. He also has a better 10 mile time. One marathon is too small of a sample size to even compare. But looking at their training I would say Droddy has a higher ceiling across the board 10K and up, therefore he is more talented. Prove me wrong, I'll wait dumb az.
well actually wrote:
well actually facts wrote:
Stinson has a better 3k, 5k, 10k, and marathon time...lol...so I would say he has more talent. Also, droddy may have a better HM time than stinson but every time I’ve seen them race that distance Stinson comes up in the results in front of Droddy. Prove me wrong, I’ll wait.
Way to cherry pick stats. Droddy beat Stinson by 30 seconds last time they raced at 10K. He also has a better 10 mile time. One marathon is too small of a sample size to even compare. But looking at their training I would say Droddy has a higher ceiling across the board 10K and up, therefore he is more talented. Prove me wrong, I'll wait dumb az.
Cherry pick stats? You brought up his HM time being better so I brought up their HM head to head...I picked the same stat you chose. As far as the other stats...that’s literally every other race distance you can compare so how is that cherry picking?
I’m glad you bring up droddy beating stinson by 30 seconds last time they raced 10k. It promoted me to look up a stat...stinson is 4-0 vs droddy in HM and 2 minutes 30 seconds ahead of droddy .
Stinson is also younger than droddy
re-quoting that URL because WHOA those lists you see the 5K and are like "okay wow" and then the 10K is eyebrow raising and then you see the marathon How are the Japanese producing so much talent, is it just that so MANY people there try running and in the USA it's just a tiny fraction of the population so we miss out on the talent?? Maybe we need corporate teams too.
Hardloper wrote:
Here's a start:
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2018/01/2018-japanese-distance-rankings.html
Drew’s supporting cast wrote:
Jdjrdhhe wrote:
I was very surprised by how poorly Fisher ran considering how well the Tinman Elite team have been running recently.
That’s because they have been cherry picking college and easy Championships. They have drew hunter as a real top 10 athlete. With a real team to qualify, they won’t have anybody but Drew in top 10 in Des Moines in July and not a single other member of club with IAAF standard.
Still think the group is solid and if they can stay in sport more power to them.
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