Is high mileage HEALTHY though?

netflix and run wrote:

Frequent runner of 100 + miles per week. Yes, when athletes run at such extremes, the purpose is not for health but for fitness and competition. I get that. That is the reason I pound through 15 miles daily. If I wanted health benefits from running only there would be no reason to go over 30 miles a week. But is 100 and above miles a week HEALTHY?

It is good to be active, but there has to come a point where running twice a day, doing hard workouts on top of the mileage, etc. cannot be good for the heart?

I wouldn't say it is HEALTHY, but if the alternative is sitting on your ass, then I choose running every time. Some people say that though Armstrong got cancer, the reason he beat it was because his body was so high-functioning and fit from all those hours spent training over the years. Maybe there is something to it.

Don't really care if it is healthy or not, I don't really want to live to old age.

How do I know wrote:

Don't really care if it is healthy or not, I don't really want to live to old age.

You want to die at a young age? That's a terribly suicidal thought.

At either end, it is likely to be unhealthy. There is nothing ever proven to be good for you in extreme.

who says this? wrote:

How do I know wrote:

Don't really care if it is healthy or not, I don't really want to live to old age.

You want to die at a young age? That's a terribly suicidal thought.

I hope I die before I get old

- The Who

I think people like Steve Scott and Armstrong got cancer from so many years of training at such a high level.

who says this? wrote:

I hope I die before I get old

Who said that.

cancer fighter wrote:

I think people like Steve Scott and Armstrong got cancer from so many years of training at such a high level.

Can you back that up? Because as far as I understand from reading online exercise is great for cancer prevention. Exercise causes the immune system to weaken and creates free radicals, but with a highly plant-based diet and when you eat high antioxidant foods you negate all of the "bad effects" of training hard.

At 100mph, you are well past the point of diminishing returns with regards to conventional health benefits, and more than likely at a point where you have started trending downward. Regarding heart health, there’s likely very little solid evidence either way, but in terms of long term mobility (decades in the future), you’re probably putting yourself at increased risk relative to more moderate training.

armstrong10 wrote:

cancer fighter wrote:

I think people like Steve Scott and Armstrong got cancer from so many years of training at such a high level.

Can you back that up? Because as far as I understand from reading online exercise is great for cancer prevention. Exercise causes the immune system to weaken and creates free radicals, but with a highly plant-based diet and when you eat high antioxidant foods you negate all of the "bad effects" of training hard.

They got steroids from ???

No body gets a fair lot in life. Some people smoke cigarettes every day of their life beginning at age 14 and live to be 80 and above. Some people who do the same end up dead at 30.

Some people eat very healthy and lead active lifestyles, yet die by 40. Some of those same kind of people live to be 80.

The truth is that is out of our control. There are pesticides in even our healthy foods. environmental toxins and pollutants, genetics, stress etc. Just live how you want to live. If it is running that much then do it.

From other active threads:

Consider Alberto Salazar. Dead once, pacemaker(s) now, young yet seemingly fragile.

Consider Dick Beardsley. A train wreck in the 90s, fake knees all around, but a betting man will see him last longer than his 82 nemesis.

A mention of "free radicals" here and there. Correct. High mileage might fall under the category of "too hard," and provide more harm than good. (See above.)

Free radicals - bad.

Chronic inflammation - bad.

Your recognition you might be doing wrong - good.

How do I know wrote:

who says this? wrote:

You want to die at a young age? That's a terribly suicidal thought.

I hope I die before I get old

- The Who

Aren't those guys like 80 years old now?

How do I know wrote:

who says this? wrote:

You want to die at a young age? That's a terribly suicidal thought.

I hope I die before I get old

- The Who

Penned by Pete Townshend, now 73; fulfilled by Keith Moon, dead at 32.

Hardloper wrote:

How do I know wrote:

I hope I die before I get old

- The Who

Aren't those guys like 80 years old now?

What irony, perhaps God will curse me and cause me to live to be a hundred. While all the health conscious folks die in their 50s.

and this ladies and gentlemen is why america has no depth in distance running. americans are becoming too health conscious. it is an ocd and stupid

anything but run hard. people always want excuses.

Probably the biggest health risk from high mileage is skin cancer. Bill Rodgers had melanoma. So did Deena Kastor.

AlSal notoriously drove himself to destruction. He is a bad example. Beardsley was in a serious farm accident, three car accidents and fell down a ravine while hiking. He blames his knee problems on the farm accident. His health problems were due to painkiller addictions. He got back to running 50 mpw after his double knee replacement and looks great.

Johnny Kelley ran 108 marathons with his last full at 84. He lived to 97.

The science on exercising "dosing" is very weak. If you have bad genes for your heart or joints, 100 mpw is not for you. Otherwise, who knows.

Precious Roy wrote:

Probably the biggest health risk from high mileage is skin cancer. Bill Rodgers had melanoma. So did Deena Kastor.

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That is why you should run at night, like Mark Nenow.