I don’t know why questions like “what is your expected cost at the ivies” keep coming up in threads like this. Honestly, if you want to know what YOUR cost would be, go fill out the NPC and it’ll tell you. Someone else’s expected cost, and whether it’s a good choice for them, is really none of your business.
The question is asked rhetorically in order to cause people to check because most have not looked into it based on the inaccurate advice they receive here regarding fake aid and scholarships at the ivies. You are correct that the calculator provides a good estimate. Mine resulted in no reduction due to significant savings even though my income is not very high.
John Hopkins (D3 good team)
William & Mary
Cal Poly SLO (hearing good things about the women’s side & also has a great club team)
Gonzaga (Jesuit) good team culture, not a great team but great coaching, program on the rise
University of Portland (Catholic). Sounds like she can do better academically though.
Georgetown (Jesuit) MIGHT be able to walk on if Senior times improve (have her reach out to coach and see what they say)- won’t get athletic money but should get financial aid
Actually I would probably only look at Georgetown for club running...I just went back to read what her track times were. Fits her academic needs and is Jesuit but even if she would be considered as a walk on she would be at the bottom and that is just no fun. I would take a good look at Gonzaga instead...it might be the perfect fit!
This is a lot of advice that assumes she will score a 34 on her ACT. If she scores 28, the majority of the advice is useless.
If accepted to one of the Ivies — or really any school, unless I receive a merit scholarship to a non-Ivy — my family would be paying full tuition. So, for the Ivies, that's right around $70,000. I'm very fortunate that my family has the means to afford that. I'm the only child in my family for whom my parents would be paying full tuition; my eldest sister is going to a "lower" academic school, but received money in the form of a merit scholarship, and my other sister received an athletic scholarship to play soccer at a D1 school.
I applied to a few public schools where I'd be a strong candidate to receive merit scholarships, and I applied for merit scholarships at some private schools, although those are extremely competitive. If I'm given any type of scholarship to any school that I applied to, I would HEAVILY consider going.
Thanks for that info. Most of the posters here don’t believe that many ivy students pay full fare because their parents have saved a great deal of money instead of blowing it all. We were in the identical boat as you and bypassed the ivies due to cost.
Thanks Kohgtd, and everyone else for the continued input.
I know Georgetown well, coached there. That kind of track program would be beyond her times. I did plant the Gonzaga bug in her ear earlier today.
And yes, until we get the ACT we won't know what schools she can realistically pursue. I think her grandparents are willing to pay for a prep course, so if she does not do so well I hope to get her signed up to take it again after a prep course. Her mom did not go to a four year school so this is all new. I was pushing for the practice tests and a prep course freshmen and sophomore year and it fell on deaf ears. She is a bright kid though so I hope even without a prep course she does well. Her high school is way the heck harder than my Western PA public school was and I did fine at competitive schools. It will just be whether we can get her foot in the door somewhere or not...
The Patriot league is great academically and D3 level athletically. She would do pretty well and likely contribute to almost every Patriot league program. They compete in D1 so if she really develops she'll have opportunities Beyond The League meets to run in regionals for cross-country against some of the big boys.
BTW, Gonzaga is also very generous with their merit based (academic) scholarships!
Hirmbeee wrote:
waytoobasic wrote:
You need someone to enlighten you. No Ivy or Stanford is going to care about an 18:30 kid. No Ivy either. My daughter got a few bites from those schools with17:40 5-K and an 4:55 mile. Stanford said walk-on at best. UCSD is the best DII school out there. If you want a full, DI is not in your future.
Lol you’re an idiot Stanford doesn’t consider walk ons. That said an 18:30 isn’t going to get her anywhere with high caliber D1 programs. Ivies, maybe a walk on status
Recruited walk on exist. Look at their roster. Don't call people idiot who have gone through the process.
Yes, at least 1/2 the guys on Stanford’s roster are recruited walk-ons. Not many women are not on scholarship though. All of the runners at the Ivies walk-on because they provide no athletic or academic aid. That’s not to say that most are not recruited though.
Check out the western undergraduate exchange also for public out of state options at near in state cost. Some of those schools have pretty good merit in addition. They probably won’t match the need based aid mom could qualify for at some of the most generous schools, but then those generous schools are also the most selective so not a sure thing. Why the need based aid issue generates so much resentment is a mystery to me. Those schools are a good deal for many, not all, middle class families. Also check out college confidential for college search advice.
Thank you so much! Those websites are really helpful.
Kohgtd wrote:
Actually I would probably only look at Georgetown for club running...I just went back to read what her track times were. Fits her academic needs and is Jesuit but even if she would be considered as a walk on she would be at the bottom and that is just no fun. I would take a good look at Gonzaga instead...it might be the perfect fit!
+1 on Gonzaga. My kid was offered $20,000 in merit aid there. He ended up going somewhere else with a more specialized aeronautical engineering program, but Gonzaga was one of his top choices and the best merit aid offer he received.