Are you upset by this Gillette ad? Is it an attack on men?

You should show him this Gillette advert. Then he will see the error in his ways and change his behavior.

An uplifting Gillette ad from the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkVDCqVY6w&app=desktop

Confused..again wrote:

Isn't this the same company that makes blue razors for men and pink razors for women?

Gillette implies that men are inherently toxic and need to suppress urge to rape and pillage.

What would women think if Victoria Secret made an ad suggesting that woman need to stop drowning their children and that female teachers need to stop sleeping with their students?

I think it is very strange that a billion dollar company finds itself preaching morality. Is Gillette using this ad to satisfy a court order penalty stemming from an internal sexual harassment judgement?

Yes these supposed social justice warriors at Gillette charge women twice as much for their pink razors. Their shaving cream cans are smaller and also cost more than the men's product with the same ingredients.

Harambe wrote:

I agree with everything you said. I was mainly trolling the neanderthals in this forum who would actually be offended by calls for common decency.

So, when you (Gillette, in this case) are trying to convince someone that your point is correct, the best way to go about it is not to insult the person you are trying to convince.

Gillette could have made a commercial showing men doing the right thing and other men supporting that. Or they could have split the difference and showed men doing the right thing with other men supporting it and men doing the wrong thing and men correcting it. Instead, they chose to focus only on men being bad as if the good man is an aberration.

Imagine if Gillette made a commercial taking on "toxic musliminity." You know, showing a man taking the keys away from a Muslim getting ready to run over people enjoying their day on a local bike path. Or someone counseling a suicide bomber against blowing up people at a market. Or wrestling a knife away from a hooded Muslim preparing to saw the head off of a Jew.

Or..

Imagine if Gillette made a commercial pointing out that black men produce 2/3's of their children out of wedlock, commit crimes at percentages way above their percentages in American society and make misogynistic music and movies.

Gillette purposely made white men out to be neanderthals.

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GoatZenHeimer wrote:

The line in the ad, "some is not enough..." implies that the problem lies with "most" men. How is that a call for common decency? It's stereotyping. "Kettle, you're black."

I just can't wait for the Vagicil or Kotex ad showing a woman drowning her newborn in the sink, female highschool teacher sleeping with a male student, and a young hot chick marrying a fat rich slob with a feminine voiceover saying "some is not enough" and "we can do better".

Then we can watch all the women come out and say - "hey, what's so wrong with asking women to be good people?"

Personally, as a woman, I'd be fine with this- in fact, I would applaud it. Condemning infanticide, self victimization, doormat act and enabling of toxic masculinity. #youtoo

Almostsbs wrote:

Confused..again wrote:

Isn't this the same company that makes blue razors for men and pink razors for women?

Gillette implies that men are inherently toxic and need to suppress urge to rape and pillage.

What would women think if Victoria Secret made an ad suggesting that woman need to stop drowning their children and that female teachers need to stop sleeping with their students?

I think it is very strange that a billion dollar company finds itself preaching morality. Is Gillette using this ad to satisfy a court order penalty stemming from an internal sexual harassment judgement?

Yes these supposed social justice warriors at Gillette charge women twice as much for their pink razors. Their shaving cream cans are smaller and also cost more than the men's product with the same ingredients.

Great point. This is why Gillette won't engage in healthy dialogue about self-abuse (i.e., door mat) femininity. They're paying too much for their products.

Don't disenfranchise the hand that feeds you

This ad is just another example of an otherwise benign appeal to men to be better that was twisted around, shouted down and aggressively rejected.

I am well aware that as a middle aged white male without knowing me people judge me as racist, misogynistic, and sometimes a creepy figure. I have noticed that people go out of their way to avoid me. I have lost jobs in favor of minorities and women because they have been oppressed.

Just sharing my experience to shed some light on how we are all suspicious of each other regardless of our gender or color.

From a certain vantage point one might say I'm getting what I deserve. If that is how you feel try to remember that I have only been judged on my appearance and not for who I am or what I am qualified to do. Does that sound familiar?

Forbes also believes that this commercial may end up to be an all time marketing blunder (the type that you study in a business case. "What was corporate environment which led to such a blunder...".

They are obviously forcing me to boycott Gillette (I feel that it's my social responsibility). Certainly not because I think that the behaviours depicted are bad (I agree that they are). But because they mention that the majority of men do them and in so saying Gillette is contributing to stupid stereotypes (I just think that it's not socially responsible to do that in 2019. So in my mind, this is a fail and there should be repercussions)

However, this may end up being a genius move. Women have been constantly told that white men are bad for 10, 20 or 30 years. So much so that women don't even feel shy to state so publicly (remember Sheila Reid?). This commercial simply confirms what women now believe to be a truism. The commercial will prompt some dumb guys to comment stupidity on the internet, which will further confirm the belief.

Women certainly control/dominate P&G brand product purchase decision, so...

P&G stock was up 0.94% yesterday.

Time will tell.

Gillette pre launched this Super Bowl ad probably because they heard that other companies would be going in the same direction and they did not want to be forgotten in the mix. (Remember the Audi commercial last year (or year before) where one girl gets the opportunity to compete in a soap box derby against dozens of guys and obviously wins due to her superior intellect... all she needed was an opportunity. Pixar also did the same in their most recent Cars movie. One girl (even if a rookie) in a race will beat dozens of experienced men. Just because women are superior. In retrospect, that was super mild.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charlesrtaylor/2019/01/15/why-gillettes-new-ad-campaign-is-toxic/#2e699dcb5bc9

So a product to remove facial or body hair has offered a free lecture on "toxic masculinity"? I look forward to reading such messages on product labels at the supermarket, or when I buy of pair of shoes or jeans, or top up with petrol. Or even on the door when I visit the can. No opportunity must be lost to remind us of what we men are. Especially if there's a profit involved.

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amessagefromoursponsor wrote:

From a certain vantage point one might say I'm getting what I deserve. If that is how you feel try to remember that I have only been judged on my appearance and not for who I am or what I am qualified to do. Does that sound familiar?

Hauntingly

Yet, as a still privileged white man, you are far less likely to be killed and sexually assaulted in your lifetime. You also have a much greater likelihood of making it to the highest echelons of your chosen profession.

So cry me a river.

Ahhh yes, the plight of white men, of white hurt feelings. You know what? Get over it. This isn't an attack on men. It's not making assumptions of all men because all men do need to do better. We're growing up in a world where men, white men, have always been at the top of power structures. We all have biases that need to be addressed. We can all confront that and try to do a little bit better. I don't need to hear paragraphs about how people look at you. You don't need to match the situation and make it about you, the individual. Women have put up with enough systemically that everyone should just think about what themes the ad is calling attention to and find ways in your own life not to perpetuate that. We don't need six pages on LRC to do that. We don't always need to have a rebuttal. We can listen more and try to be kinder, try to treat everyone equally.

The advert is tacky, but I’m not offended by it like a lot of the r/redpill snowflakes in this thread.

Hey white middle class man, so what if you get mistreated. GET OVER IT! Hey woman recieving cat calls. You poor mistreated, suppressed victim. Hey minority guy. Never mind, we are not allowed to say anything to you.

Are you liberals happy with what you have now normalized? What else do you want?

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Democrat “men” are gays.

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That hillary version 2.0 is fugly!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

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Democrat “men” are gays.

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