Lucy Kabuu banned for two years - best excuses ever?

As for Kabuu, no one has pointed out she tested positive for morphine. Can someone tell me why you would take morphine and how it would help you.

I'm much more likely to believe she's innocent since she tested positive for morphine rather than known performance enhancers like steroids or EPO.

rojo wrote:

As for Kabuu, no one has pointed out she tested positive for morphine. Can someone tell me why you would take morphine and how it would help you.

I'm much more likely to believe she's innocent since she tested positive for morphine rather than known performance enhancers like steroids or EPO.

The article from the OP says she tested positive for morphine.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

I was in a FB conversation with her (along with Kenyans proclaiming her innocence because she is Kenyan)

She was banned for morphine. I pointed out excess codeine tablets could cause a false positive.

To be fair I don't think she is that intelligent as I don't think she got that this was a reasonable excuse. Another Kenyan actually said she had taken a pain killer and should just have got a TUES but she just started rambling on about God

I'm not sure morphine would actually enhance performance other than perhaps you could push through the pain?

It does not seem that straightforward but the authorities and half this board bought the BS excuse about meat contamination with your 800m runner.

If she was American she'd have walked or got a reduction like Gay

The drug testing hypocrisy is way out of bounds, and I wish they'd completely get rid of it.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

I was in a FB conversation with her (along with Kenyans proclaiming her innocence because she is Kenyan)

She was banned for morphine. I pointed out excess codeine tablets could cause a false positive.

To be fair I don't think she is that intelligent as I don't think she got that this was a reasonable excuse. Another Kenyan actually said she had taken a pain killer and should just have got a TUES but she just started rambling on about God

I'm not sure morphine would actually enhance performance other than perhaps you could push through the pain?

It does not seem that straightforward but the authorities and half this board bought the BS excuse about meat contamination with your 800m runner.

If she was American she'd have walked or got a reduction like Gay

This could be unintentional, and reminds one of stopped clocks and whatnot, but I, for once, agree with ukatheleticscoach’s entire post. Every word. Also highlights how detrimental and limiting the lack of a good education can be, and that is the biggest disadvantage the vast majority of Kenyan runners have against their Western counterparts.

Morphine makes no sense whatsoever. Someone should get to the bottom of this.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

I was in a FB conversation with her (along with Kenyans proclaiming her innocence because she is Kenyan)

She was banned for morphine. I pointed out excess codeine tablets could cause a false positive.

To be fair I don't think she is that intelligent as I don't think she got that this was a reasonable excuse. Another Kenyan actually said she had taken a pain killer and should just have got a TUES but she just started rambling on about God

I'm not sure morphine would actually enhance performance other than perhaps you could push through the pain?

It does not seem that straightforward but the authorities and half this board bought the BS excuse about meat contamination with your 800m runner.

If she was American she'd have walked or got a reduction like Gay

The American women with the meat eating excuse did not get her world record ratified . Seems like some inside USATF have some common sense , but not enough political power to ban the meat eating cheater.

That should be "American record" not world record.

rojo wrote:

As for Kabuu, no one has pointed out she tested positive for morphine. Can someone tell me why you would take morphine and how it would help you.

I'm much more likely to believe she's innocent since she tested positive for morphine rather than known performance enhancers like steroids or EPO.

I believe the argument is that painkillers mask pain, allowing athletes to train for longer. Pure morphine is much stronger than otc painkillers like tylenol.

That said, morphine is something that one could feasibly be given in a hospital as a painkiller. Kabuu would have claimed she had some kind of medical procedure for which she was given morphine if she weren't an idiot.

7.5/10 not quite Tyler Hamilton levels but worthy of a commendation. Just wait for Rek to turn up and say that the lucozade was spiked. Who's her coach/manager?

BTW Linford Christie was the face of Lucozade back in the 90s.

Wolf's Bane wrote:

rojo wrote:

As for Kabuu, no one has pointed out she tested positive for morphine. Can someone tell me why you would take morphine and how it would help you.

I'm much more likely to believe she's innocent since she tested positive for morphine rather than known performance enhancers like steroids or EPO.

I believe the argument is that painkillers mask pain, allowing athletes to train for longer. Pure morphine is much stronger than otc painkillers like tylenol.

That said, morphine is something that one could feasibly be given in a hospital as a painkiller. Kabuu would have claimed she had some kind of medical procedure for which she was given morphine if she weren't an idiot.

She likely doesn’t even know what morphine is. It’s just medicine to her. And I’m not even trying to make to make fun of her or be mean spirited.

OK, honestly, I'm probably one of the last people who would ever say this normally but it just sounds like a stupid fuuck up and not intentional doping.

rojo wrote:

I'm much more likely to believe she's innocent since she tested positive for morphine rather than known performance enhancers like steroids or EPO.

As cited yesterday:

DOI: 10.1523/JNEUROSCI.3330-07.2007

Among performance-boosting drugs, morphine is known to be a powerful analgesic that increases tolerance to pain, thereby improving physical performance

Subway Surfers wrote:

7.5/10 not quite Tyler Hamilton levels but worthy of a commendation. Just wait for Rek to turn up and say that the lucozade was spiked. Who's her coach/manager?

BTW Linford Christie was the face of Lucozade back in the 90s.

Awesome!

I can buy that she might have not been intentionally cheating, but the people here who keep using the word 'innocent' - she tried to blame three different TRULY innocent people, including her training partner.

Shouldn't she be charged with damaging the integrity of the sport or such?

Wouldn't it make sense that if she truly didn't know how the morphine got into her system, she may posit many possibilities?

If she really didn't do it....and really had no idea....then very logical that she would throw out many reasons, b/c she had no idea.

Subway Surfers wrote:

7.5/10 not quite Tyler Hamilton levels but worthy of a commendation. Just wait for Rek to turn up and say that the lucozade was spiked. Who's her coach/manager?

BTW Linford Christie was the face of Lucozade back in the 90s.

I wonder if Ramzi advertises healthy 'peas and carrots' in his home country?

The new Athletics Integrity Unit investigated, and found her guilty of unintentional doping, hence the mild 2-year ban.

Excerpts from the 22 pages pdf:

Source:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

I was in a FB conversation with her (along with Kenyans proclaiming her innocence because she is Kenyan)

She was banned for morphine. I pointed out excess codeine tablets could cause a false positive.

To be fair I don't think she is that intelligent as I don't think she got that this was a reasonable excuse. Another Kenyan actually said she had taken a pain killer and should just have got a TUES but she just started rambling on about God

I'm not sure morphine would actually enhance performance other than perhaps you could push through the pain?

It does not seem that straightforward but the authorities and half this board bought the BS excuse about meat contamination with your 800m runner.

If she was American she'd have walked or got a reduction like Gay

I can tell you that this is real. My experience is that I have an african girlfriend (i live in europe) and of course we normally have sex and she was telling me about some pills that she use to take and that were popular amongst africans. So I was curious about it. She said that they use it as some kind of pain killer or even sexual enhancer. I was confused. Maybe is Viagra or Cialis but those are not pain killer!! Than finally one day she has those pills with her. I read the active ingredient of the drug , google it and now I dont remember all names but it was a morphine drug I was shocked! Of course she didnt know what morphine was and the addiction that can give when you take it without any reason. I tell her to throw away that rubbish , and to not take it again. So I m not too much surprised by a morphine positivity.

Not so sure about it as a performance enhancer.

Weird...Very Weird.....?

rojo wrote:

As for Kabuu, no one has pointed out she tested positive for morphine. Can someone tell me why you would take morphine and how it would help you.

Sure, except that it was pointed out in the original post and there has been extensive discussion both of the substance and possible benefits throughout.

Must be that ivy league education working for you there...