What is my potential? 43-min 10k on very little training

ok so 19-flat for 200. that's solid. given a clear extremely high amount of fast-twitch muscle here's your potential.

00:19.00 - 200

00:45.60 - 400

01:49.50 - 800

04:24.00 - Mile

10:16.00 - 2 Mile

17:28.00 - 5000

39:18.00 - 10000

I think you should stick to the 200, maybe hit up some 4 x 4s and then as an exhibition hype up a match with Rudisha to make some cash even though you're clearly going to lose.

Your potential is waiting wrote:

ok so 19-flat for 200. that's solid. given a clear extremely high amount of fast-twitch muscle here's your potential.

00:19.00 - 200

00:45.60 - 400

01:49.50 - 800

04:24.00 - Mile

10:16.00 - 2 Mile

17:28.00 - 5000

39:18.00 - 10000

I think you should stick to the 200, maybe hit up some 4 x 4s and then as an exhibition hype up a match with Rudisha to make some cash even though you're clearly going to lose.

You're the man! I'll sure try to fulfill my potential. See you all at the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo. Be on the lookout for a skinny nerdy-looking white boy from LetsRun.com. Just don't confuse me with that Frenchie dude LeMaitre.

And no I won't lose. Just wait and see.

Bare Minimum Runner wrote:

What is my potential for the 5k and 10k if I train nearly every everyday and up my mileage to 20-30 mpw? Thanks.

Bell curved guess of 38-39 min 10k on 30mpw.

36-37min if you run 60mpw.

OTOH - read Epstein's "Sports Gene". You might be on either side of the bell curve, the dreaded non-responder who improves little and has a hard time getting under 40min no matter how much you run, or a super responder and you run 35min 10k. The latter is unlikely based on your HS times.

Just stay the way you are, you'll got a lot more conversational mileage by telling people "I ran a 43min 10k"....

"but I only run once a week or so". The room will be abuzz with people whispering: "...and he only runs once a week!!!"

No one cares if you run a hobby jogger elite time of 39:59 with hobby jogger training.

Bro Science hobby jogger wrote:

Bare Minimum Runner wrote:

What is my potential for the 5k and 10k if I train nearly every everyday and up my mileage to 20-30 mpw? Thanks.

Bell curved guess of 38-39 min 10k on 30mpw.

36-37min if you run 60mpw.

OTOH - read Epstein's "Sports Gene". You might be on either side of the bell curve, the dreaded non-responder who improves little and has a hard time getting under 40min no matter how much you run, or a super responder and you run 35min 10k. The latter is unlikely based on your HS times.

Epstein is not a scientist. Why do brojos and other mindless sheep on letsrun quote Epstein has if he's a scientist. Epstein majored in journalism in college. He has views of the world and selected some elements of science to back up his views of the world.

Another blood relative of Epstein wrote:

Epstein is not a scientist. Why do brojos and other mindless sheep on letsrun quote Epstein has if he's a scientist. Epstein majored in journalism in college. He has views of the world and selected some elements of science to back up his views of the world.

He's just another Jewish schmuck doing eugenics. Oy vey!

Another blood relative of Epstein wrote:

Epstein is not a scientist. Why do brojos and other mindless sheep on letsrun quote Epstein has if he's a scientist. Epstein majored in journalism in college. He has views of the world and selected some elements of science to back up his views of the world.

Why do brojos and mindless sheep on letsrun have to knee jerk criticize popular well accepted non scientists? Did i even say Epstein was a scientist (no). Can we no longer post our "views of the world" on LetsRun unless we're a scientist or quoting a scientist? Are you a scientist or is this just your "view of the world".

Ok scientist, how many studies on response to training had every single subject with exactly the same response? How many had a range of of results, with super responders and poor responders? Have you even read a study on response to training?

Honestly, you should be able to plateau around 35-36, maybe a bit slower, if you up the training a lot. I did 40 10k on maybe 20-30 miles per week, after a long hiatus. If you do 50-60 mpw with two hard workouts and a long run, plus strides and hill sprints for a couple years, training with other, faster people when you can, you'll see rapid improvement at every distance.

I think Martin Fiz's blog has some training tips for people in your predicament. Some years ago, he claimed in an interview that if ANYONE followed his 10k plan they could easily run 40:00

doctorj wrote:

I think Martin Fiz's blog has some training tips for people in your predicament. Some years ago, he claimed in an interview that if ANYONE followed his 10k plan they could easily run 40:00

I searched him up and everything is in Spanish. Anything in English?

If you're looking for inspiration here you're wasting your time. If you had any potential to run fast, you'd be running fast.

Running fast is more about your mental ability and drive, than your physical. Clearly you have no mental driver, so you'll always be a hobby jogger.

Come back when you've done it, rather than tell us what you would do. The reality is, you've done nothing, and will do nothing in the future. Its just not your bag.

I think you could get under 40 within 3-4 months of running 25-30 miles/week and be approaching 38 minutes at the 1 year mark. But why? You don’t sound like you care much about running or racing.

I would recommend running 3 days per week, lifting weights 2-3 days per week, and eating a lot more. You will still be able to impress your friends in local 5ks and 10ks, but you won’t have to be a scrawny weakling. A slim runner’s body makes sense for an adult male if you love the sport and love to compete. But since you obviously don’t, you’re just a skinny dork.

Rupp fan wrote:

I think you could get under 40 within 3-4 months of running 25-30 miles/week and be approaching 38 minutes at the 1 year mark. But why? You don’t sound like you care much about running or racing.

I would recommend running 3 days per week, lifting weights 2-3 days per week, and eating a lot more. You will still be able to impress your friends in local 5ks and 10ks, but you won’t have to be a scrawny weakling. A slim runner’s body makes sense for an adult male if you love the sport and love to compete. But since you obviously don’t, you’re just a skinny dork.

Please read my post again. I love the sport and care a lot about running and racing. But the real work world does not always allow for us to train like collegiate runners. The reason I am not running so much now is because I have a ton of computer work to do.

Dude you're either full of sh!t, trolling, or looking for attention.

First of all, very hard to believe that you ran HS cross country and don't have any awareness of a good 10K time. Right off the bat, you're full of sh!t or you're really dumb. Either way - that's pretty pathetic.