2019 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Are you kidding me? wrote:

Nike Go wrote:

https://okstate.com/news/2019/9/18/womens-cross-country-track-anna-boyert-thorp-hired-as-newest-addition-to-osu-coaching-staff.aspx

“Boyert-Thorp joins the OSU coaching staff after working at Southern Glazer's Wine and Spirits/E & J Gallo Winery in Dallas, Texas, as a sales representative”

Are you f-ing kidding me? This is worse than the recently hired girl that worked “developing” first and second graders.

These hires are a slap in the face to REAL, hard working coaches.

REAL, hard working coaches... Such as? You?

I don’t think you understand the bills... They will get their image rights and not be paid by the school at all. But it will be the beginning of the end for the NCAA for the Power 5.

Does not matter wrote:

Don’t worry. When California and South Carolina both have bills to pay players, the NCAA won't budge, and the power five say screw it and leave the NCAA, watch out. They will cut all non revenue sports so they can pay their quarterback 30k a year. The NCAA will fold and the NAIA will be the only show in town. Guess what, none of those guys are leaving to make room for all the NCAA refugee coaches. So all that time they put in, who they knew, wether they were a woman or minority won't matter. They are all going to get their real estate license.................. Boom game over, move on to the 2020 NAIA coaching positions thread.

RT

Oh I understand. I just don't think the two year negotiation that the NCAA has with the power five that will go no where will matter. I skipped to the end which is the end of the NCAA and collegiate sports as we know it. When that happens the scenario I laid out, while in jest, becomes plausible. The money that everyone is fighting over is what will be the end of it all. As a sport we really should be more worried about developments like this. Track and cross will not survive attacks like this. Every non football and basketball coach in the NCAA should be worried.

You say you do but you clearly don’t. All that is happening is likeness rights. Meaning players can get paid by outside sources. Athletic department budgets remain the same. If they choose to leave the ncaa then other things may happen but that is purely speculation.

If the money ends up being there for these kids individually, then new leagues will quickly form and the ncaa strength will be gone. Jr NBA in espn all winter, maybe. Will it? We really won’t know until the floodgates open. Can breaking away from the ncaa save the big schools? They freaking will try and find out sooner or later.

The ncaa men’s basketball tournament is 99% of the ncaa income and we pays all the bills. All the championships costs and travel paid at all levels. If the ncaa goes down, a lot of the structure of all levels will evaporate. Conference meets will likely be the highest levels that exist....so cool.

If all these jerks on YouTube and Instagram makes tons of money, you can freakin bet there will be money out there for every decent(talented or attractive) college athlete!

It’s not doomsday yet, but you have to wonder when.....

Cmonguy wrote:

You say you do but you clearly don’t. All that is happening is likeness rights. Meaning players can get paid by outside sources. Athletic department budgets remain the same. If they choose to leave the ncaa then other things may happen but that is purely speculation.

Regardless, these schools will be kicked out of the

the NCAA dissolves. And then there goes sport sponsorship minimums required by the NCAA...the only thing keeping men's track/xc afloat (and the black kids the sport draws to the campus, but nothing football and basketball won't still take care of). Doesn't matter if the schools themselves aren't paying these players...there will be no incentive left to keep men's track/xc. Title IX will be the only thing that saves women's track/xc.

If you think opening the door to paying players, even if it is "outside sources" is going to keep Alabama from shelling out big bucks to get their next Heisman winner you don't understand. Once that pay for pay door opens those athletes are no longer student athletes. They have become pros. The second Alabama does that then everyone else has to in order to not be left behind. So, NO, athletic budgets will not stay the same. College sports will fundamentally change if this happens. No one knows the repercussions of that but I can gaurantee our beloved sport with is expensive facilities will not be high on the list of things to keep.

How? This is just fear mongering and slippery slope. If they are having outside boosters pay players there is no incentive for the athletic department too. You are not thinking rationally. The p5 will not leave the ncaa because the ncaa needs them and will stay attached however they can to those schools. It will just be a new ncaa division like it should be anyways.

Fearfearforyourlives wrote:

How? This is just fear mongering and slippery slope. If they are having outside boosters pay players there is no incentive for the athletic department too. You are not thinking rationally. The p5 will not leave the ncaa because the ncaa needs them and will stay attached however they can to those schools. It will just be a new ncaa division like it should be anyways.

My sport supervising AD straight told me "the moment this happens most men's non-revenue sports are gone."

Well he’s wrong. Track will only get cut once the money is coming out of the athletics budget. And the bills have nothing to do with this.

Now what is going on with Texas ?

What is the plan for staff at UVA? I mean besides hiring women that worked at bars or elementary school, or 24hr fitness.

Actually he's right. The money that boosters normally give to the department that go to fund sports like ours, those boosters will now be paying Johnny FifthstringQB to sit on the bench. What sounds better when sitting at the rotary club meeting " I gave 100k to State U's track team" or "I gave Johnny StartingQB 100k to sign autographs at my Taco Bell franchise on Main St. I am the reason he's at State U"? These bills don't mean schools will pay athletes, it means boosters can now divert their money into the pockets of players, not give to the Husky Club where they have no idea where it's going.

My sport supervising AD straight told me "the moment this happens most men's non-revenue sports are gone."

Administrators, especially Sport Supervisors/“Assistant/Associate” AD’s are idiots.

If you believe a word they tell you, you are gullible.

Money On Trees wrote:

Actually he's right. The money that boosters normally give to the department that go to fund sports like ours, those boosters will now be paying Johnny FifthstringQB to sit on the bench. What sounds better when sitting at the rotary club meeting " I gave 100k to State U's track team" or "I gave Johnny StartingQB 100k to sign autographs at my Taco Bell franchise on Main St. I am the reason he's at State U"? These bills don't mean schools will pay athletes, it means boosters can now divert their money into the pockets of players, not give to the Husky Club where they have no idea where it's going.

I agree, when the NCAA eventually adopts this California law as rule (an I think they will) the money generated by P5 athletic departments goes way down. I don't know that individual boosters will be paying players, but businesses will likely stop sponsoring departments, and start paying star players for endorsements. Everyone will want the stars, so I think the eventual system will put big money into a few hands, and nothing will change for lineman, second string basketballers and non-revenue athletes in terms of scholarship.

With fewer donors at the P5 level (and declining TV revenue) I imagine the College arms race will settle down. Cross Country and track teams (as well as Tennis, vball, soccer and golf) will no longer fly to meets, conference realignment will move back to being more regionally based, teams will go back to sharing strength coaches and athletic trainers, and coaching staffs may get smaller but college athletics will likely continue.

More importantly this thread will continue!

Uconn throws finished yet?

This could easily be put in another thread. Here we go again, getting diverted off topic...

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uconman wrote:

Uconn throws finished yet?

This is constantly mentioned, but did they even post it?

Mercer head?