2019 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

The need is great...

Nobigdeal wrote:

Whats the issue? She was a great runner AT UCONN, she volunteered at a P5 and assisted at a mid major. Now she gets to head up another mid major. Whats wrong with this? Am I missing something?

Normally on on the other side, complaining about underqualified women getting hired but Crevoiserat is actually a really good pick.

First, to be honest, this is an assistant coach job with a head coach title for Title 9 reasons. Greg Roy is one of the best coaches out there and he is a great teacher. She will learn a ton from Roy in a short period of time.

And it's important to hire a coach that wants to be there for a long time. They had success under Grove-McDonough but she was just using it to get another job. JJ came in and used it as a stepping stone to Stanford. Crevoiserat will probably be at UCONN for the rest of her career since she is an alum and as a CT native. She has great recruiting connections in the state, too.

close but not quite... wrote:

louder for the ignorant ones in the back wrote:

YES. Thank you for saying this.

Sincerely,

Female coach who will no doubt be torn apart on this dumpster fire message board

What it really mens is that the male coaches have to "step up their game, recruit harder, work harder, be open to new ideas and training, be more compassionate, be more visible."

And that's fine. It's an effort to speed up the diversity of the profession. But call it what it is. UConn did not consider a single male candidate for this position at any time.

Normally I would agree with you but this is a different circumstance. They just combined the program and all the previous coaches on the women's staff left. The Director, Greg Roy, is a great coach but he hasn't coached women in more than 30 years. In this situation, it's really important to have a woman on staff to help with the integration process and to help the men's coaches adjust to coaching women.

Preach.

Lol Kevin Hadsell wants more women in the profession so he can bang his equals instead of subordinates

But since he's not a coach anymore, your snarky comment comes off as pretty stupid and uninformed.

What’s up with Texas am commerce. They reposted the throws position?

PFW for the win wrote:

That is an interesting/lazy hire; no head coaching experience, not any standout performances....I’m pretty sure they didn’t even bother doing a search there. If you wanted to go sprints and jumps I’m sure they’re a lot of coaching lining up for that chance.

Time will tell but look at results wasn’t like his group was doing that well, not that any group there was. You have your chance now coach better make the most of it.

Maybe it was his recruiting ability that put him over the top. Every head coach had no head coaching experience at some point.

Or not wrote:

But since he's not a coach anymore, your snarky comment comes off as pretty stupid and uninformed.

Kevin Hadsell has a lot of great stuff to contribute to this forum. Women's empowerment isn't one of them.

actually a good pick wrote:

And it's important to hire a coach that wants to be there for a long time. They had success under Grove-McDonough but she was just using it to get another job. JJ came in and used it as a stepping stone to Stanford. Crevoiserat will probably be at UCONN for the rest of her career since she is an alum and as a CT native. She has great recruiting connections in the state, too.

Ummm, as long as she doesn't screw this up, she'll be getting 100K+ offers from P5 schools within a few years...and money talks.

If female coaches can survive into their 30's then... wrote:

actually a good pick wrote:

And it's important to hire a coach that wants to be there for a long time. They had success under Grove-McDonough but she was just using it to get another job. JJ came in and used it as a stepping stone to Stanford. Crevoiserat will probably be at UCONN for the rest of her career since she is an alum and as a CT native. She has great recruiting connections in the state, too.

Ummm, as long as she doesn't screw this up, she'll be getting 100K+ offers from P5 schools within a few years...and money talks.

That would go for anyone they hire though. She has extremely strong ties to the school and the state, so she has a better chance of staying there for a while than anyone else.

Grove-McDonough is a good cautionary tale, too. It's funny because Crevoiserat volunteered under Grove-McDonough and now has a better job than Grove-McDonough. Sometimes getting greedy and going power 5 is a bad idea - less job security.

efadfaf wrote:

Or not wrote:

But since he's not a coach anymore, your snarky comment comes off as pretty stupid and uninformed.

Kevin Hadsell has a lot of great stuff to contribute to this forum. Women's empowerment isn't one of them.

Really? Is there even one single male on this forum that has spoken up on this besides Kevin? Not one of you are willing to drop your real name and say what Kevin has said? None of you? I’d say he’s more than qualified.

actually a good pick wrote:

If female coaches can survive into their 30's then... wrote:

Ummm, as long as she doesn't screw this up, she'll be getting 100K+ offers from P5 schools within a few years...and money talks.

That would go for anyone they hire though. She has extremely strong ties to the school and the state, so she has a better chance of staying there for a while than anyone else.

Grove-McDonough is a good cautionary tale, too. It's funny because Crevoiserat volunteered under Grove-McDonough and now has a better job than Grove-McDonough. Sometimes getting greedy and going power 5 is a bad idea - less job security.

You do realize AGM received several $100k plus offers from P5 schools this summer to be the head distance/asst. track and turned them all down right? Why? She probably got paid far more than this at Toledo and she's now the boss. Toledo may not be a glamorous P5, but now she has 18 scholarships to spend at her will at a place Kevin proved it can be done at and Andrea has proved she's more than capable of getting the job done.

Will drake keep the Fresno staff or wipe it clean?

Agreed.

Kevin posts openly because he has nothing to lose. He’s already lost it.

Andrea has a much better job. She is the boss at Toledo. Director of Track and Field/Cross Country. Other woman is Greg Roy’s assistant coach at U-Conn. She is in charge of training the women’s cross country team, but Greg will be making all the final decisions and control the women’s scholarship money. He is the boss at U-Conn. U-Conn is not in a Power 5 conference. Andrea getting paid more at Toledo. My guess is that Greg Roy contacted Andrea to come back, but she had better options and Toledo was a better option.

Gshdjdn wrote:

Kevin posts openly because he has nothing to lose. He’s already lost it.

So it takes a man with nothing to lose to be honest and complimentary to the women in this board? Maybe he’s showing more growth than I previously thought.

Just let all this crap go, guys get hired for positions with far less experience because of who they know. That is the tale of the tape at the end of the day. Who you know. This will not change, but’s it’s not the only way, you just have to really want it. I would say about 40% of coaching positions are subjective hires and go off of experience or potential based on how you present yourself. Network and work on interviewing very well. You want to blow them away with your knowledge of the school, program and the events you coach. Someone will hire you and then from there absolutely crush it, don’t get comfortable! And above all this, try to make an impact in the lives of the kids/young adults you’re coaching. They come and go so fast, make sure they enjoyed their athletic experience!