Walmsley just had a crazy week of training

Nobody cares. End of thread.

We all know he can run far. But if he's only running his 2x3mi at 4:59 and 5:03, that's slower than the 4:53s he's going to need to run a 1:04. The half qualifier is no joke. He'd probably have an easier time running 2:18 given that endurance is his strength.

reed, you're pretty ignorant about high level running. You are saying nothing he's done since college indicates sub-64 ability? Are you serious? How about Patrick Smyth? Andy Wacker? Guys that have run 1:02 that Jim has absolutely demolished over short trail mountain races.

You're the same dude that said Walmsley was a mental head case and could never set the CR at Western States and the year he went off-course he would not have set the CR.

Stick to your slowpoke runnign and racing, buddy. It will be nice again when he proves you wrong, AGAIN.

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He'd probably have an easier time running 2:18 given that endurance is his strength.

I agree with this.

Running a half to qualify for a marathon race has never made any sense to me.

dunes, how does it not make sense?

Running a 5000m to qualify for a 10,000m always made sense. It's how I got under 29 for the first time. Running a half to qualify for a marathon worked for Galen Rupp. Not sure what the concern is with a guy that can absolutely crush a marathon.

Jim has not destroyed any of those guys in short races. Which race are you referring to? I do recall Jim getting lit up by Sage Canaday and Joe Gray at the 12k xc champs. That was a flat course. To give perspective, Gray ran 63 high qualifying for the trials while Canaday didn't qualify missing narrowly. Its not a walk in the park, he probably wont run under 64:45. Also keep in mind guys like Andy and Smythe have way more natural speed than Jim. Andy and Smythe also qualified easily for the trials. Smythe would obliterate Jim in anything under marathon distance, especially on the roads. I would have to say Gray would also dominate Jim and neither Gray or Smythe have qualified yet for 2020, or maybe they haven't run qualifiers yet? I think people pump jim up a little too much because he is able to win ultras which are very weak fields and also people have to account for the idea that these races do not have the deepest fields due to the fact that there are lotteries so that cuts out the competition right off the back. When jim has lined up at major events, he folds. Every Championship and every ultra where he had 3 or more other pro runners he crumbled like a cookie

Jim's breakneck pace at SpeedGoat made Smyth drop out, as he was trying to keep up with the GOAT. You can watch the video on You Tube.

Clearly you didn't read my comment. Speedgoat is an ultra. I said he wouldn't be able to touch any of the guys mentioned in anything below ultra distance

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dunes, how does it not make sense?

Running a 5000m to qualify for a 10,000m always made sense. It's how I got under 29 for the first time. Running a half to qualify for a marathon worked for Galen Rupp. Not sure what the concern is with a guy that can absolutely crush a marathon.

What he means is the half qualifier is more difficult so it makes more sense to just run sub 2:19. Especially in his case since he's going to be running big mileage anyway. Walmsley is just dicking around with his training. He won't make sub 1:04

Is it too early to start a Houston Half 'Thon Jim Walmsley Prediction thread or should we wait until the new year begins?

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Is it too early to start a Houston Half 'Thon Jim Walmsley Prediction thread or should we wait until the new year begins?

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I’m a big fan of Jim’s, but nothing in that block of training tells me he can run sub-64. The 2x3 mile was at 3,000 feet, and he wasn’t near the 4:52 pace he needs to run. If he was running it at 4:45 or 4:50 pace then I could possibly defend it a bit more. I know he’s having fun by doing the Bass Trail FKT, but I’m confused why he threw that in the middle of half marathon training. I just don’t think he’s taking it as seriously as he should if he wants to get the qualifier.

Jim is good at time trialing though, so he may just go out and try and maintain 4:50’s at Houston and see what happens? *shrug*

With his kind of base of longer miles, why is he going for the half marathon qualifier instead of the marathon qualifier?

Why is everyone saying the 2x3 Mile, 2xmile workout means he won’t hit it? I can’t do 2x3 mile then 2xmile at hmp either, that would be an insane workout and only gets harder the faster you are

Latest sesh from the Walms (from his strava): 10x800m with 400m jog:

2.20 first 6, then 2.16, 2.15, 2.14, 2.10.

Analyze + Discus.

he won't break 65 at best. jogging 45 miles isn't how you train for a half. he's a trail hobbyjogger and nothing more. Any mediocre borderline pro could do what he does better off of a month of training

Have you guys seen Andrew Lemoncello (former Florida State Olympian and 2:13 Marathoner) in the midst of his 200-mile week? He's at 170-miles today all avg. 6:30/mi or so. He might win Strava as well.

Walmsley is living the DREAM and you pathetic keyboard jockey losers are wasting your time denigrating him on a message board. I doubt any of you could even run a 44 miler or a 2:10 800.

I'll be cheering for Walmsley to make the trials.

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reed, you're pretty ignorant about high level running. You are saying nothing he's done since college indicates sub-64 ability? Are you serious? How about Patrick Smyth? Andy Wacker? Guys that have run 1:02 that Jim has absolutely demolished over short trail mountain races.

You're the same dude that said Walmsley was a mental head case and could never set the CR at Western States and the year he went off-course he would not have set the CR.

Stick to your slowpoke runnign and racing, buddy. It will be nice again when he proves you wrong, AGAIN.

I'm gonna agree with myself that Jim hasn't done anything since college that directly indicates sub 64min half ability. I'm not saying he can't do it, I'm just saying he hasn't proven that he can easily do it.

Also, Jim has hardly raced any shorter mountain races. Without looking anything up, I'd even guess he literally hasn't raced Wacker or Smyth in a short trail race. Besides, short trail races hardly indicate half marathon ability.

And I definitely never said Jim could t get the CR at Western States. You're thinking of somebody else. I'm generally a defender of Jim on these boards. I bought his Stop Jim tshirt and wore it while spectating WS100 a couple years ago.

Additionally, I'll stand by my comment that he probably wouldn't have set the CR in 2015, the year he made a wrong turn. He was losing a ton of ground on CR pace and was obviously not mentally in a good spot. I could pull up splits for you if you want more details.

So everything you've said has been wrong. Thank you, please come again.