I am SICK of the term 'Hobby Jogger'

I've always thought the "does it cost you vs. does it make you money" delineation is a good one; there is no difference between a 2:30 and a 5:30 marathoner. Both are spending more than they're taking in for racing annually. I know that's an unpopular opinion around here though.

themanontherun wrote:

I've always thought the "does it cost you vs. does it make you money" delineation is a good one; there is no difference between a 2:30 and a 5:30 marathoner. Both are spending more than they're taking in for racing annually. I know that's an unpopular opinion around here though.

I agree.

If you’re training super hard 120 mpw weeks and still not getting paid for the sport, get better genetics next time.

(But you’re still a HJ though)

I agree. Now I must taper for tomorrows turkey trot and prepare the Thanksgiving tofurky

Letsrun.com is a place where 120pound runners can hide behind their keyboards and feel tough for once.

themanontherun wrote:

I've always thought the "does it cost you vs. does it make you money" delineation is a good one; there is no difference between a 2:30 and a 5:30 marathoner. Both are spending more than they're taking in for racing annually. I know that's an unpopular opinion around here though.

That's actually the popular opinion, and I agree. I'm fine with hobby jogger. There's nothing negative about running being a hobby, and there's nothing negative about jogging, which is slow running.

I read somewhere that jogging is defined as running slower than 10:00/mile pace. I think therefore 4:20 or so Marathon is the cutoff for hobby jogger (maybe a 4:05 for men and 4:35 for women?) I consider most of my running friends(ranging from 2:3x to 3:0x marathoners) to be running enthusiasts or at least hobby runners. I know plenty of hobby joggers or even hobby jog-walkers (Galloway) and walkers in my casual running club who finish marathons. They are still healthier than the average obese, out of shape middle aged American who would have trouble briskly waking a few miles.

Some folks have a little fun with the term. Nothing really to get all worked up about. I run for me and my personal satisfaction. Who cares what folks on some website think.

The thing that gets me is folks who get caught up in "my 15 minute 5K is more impressive than your 5 hr marathon". Nobody cares about either one. To paraphrase Mark Twain, "running a fast 5K is a sign of a misspent youth (or adulthood)". Getting good at running takes some selfishness. No way around it.

The first few threads I read I was amazed, but then I realized it is good for the little people to have an outlet for their feeling of miniocre.

Shutting this down.

The extreme negativity, mysogany, hate, and pure idiocy a lot of you "men" post here daily truly makes me cringe Irl.

The reality here is: OP found a hobby he loves and wanted to try. Did it in an unconventional venue, and was a enjoyed it. Good for him! Don't be such a negative ******* for the sake of beig a dick...

The insane amount of comments degrading hobby joggers also has to stop. I'll begin mass banning for those comments when I see them. So knock it off.

OP has more life experience than the vast majority of the letsrun, with the average age being around 42, and knows his hobby better than anyone here. Who the fuk are you to tear him down? Get a life. Truly.

OP. I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like are a winner.

PartyMan wrote:

Shutting this down.

The extreme negativity, mysogany, hate, and pure idiocy a lot of you "men" post here daily truly makes me cringe Irl.

The reality here is: OP found a hobby he loves and wanted to try. Did it in an unconventional venue, and was a enjoyed it. Good for him! Don't be such a negative ******* for the sake of beig a dick...

The insane amount of comments degrading hobby joggers also has to stop. I'll begin mass banning for those comments when I see them. So knock it off.

OP has more life experience than the vast majority of the letsrun, with the average age being around 42, and knows his hobby better than anyone here. Who the fuk are you to tear him down? Get a life. Truly.

OP. I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like are a winner.

Do all the hobbyjoggers have their panties in a bunch today or is it one dude posting in a bunch of threads?

Love the Turkey Trot season.

The majority of people who use the term are just trolling to get a rise out of sensitive people like you who can't take a joke.

It’s just a way for some to make themselves feel superior by putting others down. Gonna do a Half Marathon tomorrow morning, probably with time about 2:35. Hey, I’m 57 and hold down a desk all week, but you know what? I’ll beat all the guys my age who slept in and just accept age as it comes. Atleast I’m getting in shape and have a strong heart. For the guys on here putting others down, why not offer some legit advice/encouragement to others who are seeking input? Isn’t that sportsmanship? Why just be jerks?

Don't forget the phrase originated on here as a way for some of the pros and former pros to disparage the rest of us.

Old Hobby Jogger wrote:

It’s just a way for some to make themselves feel superior by putting others down. Gonna do a Half Marathon tomorrow morning, probably with time about 2:35. Hey, I’m 57 and hold down a desk all week, but you know what? I’ll beat all the guys my age who slept in and just accept age as it comes. Atleast I’m getting in shape and have a strong heart. For the guys on here putting others down, why not offer some legit advice/encouragement to others who are seeking input? Isn’t that sportsmanship? Why just be jerks?

Respect. Unfortunately, the running community has more than it’s fair share of snobby narcissists, probably why being a “runner” is such a bad aesthetic and such a turn off to some people.

Just the facts bruh wrote:

seattle dude wrote:

What is with this all or nothing negativity here? No other sport has such ridiculous people making fun of others accomplishments.

Breaking 25min at your local Turkey Trot 5k is not an accomplishment.

You're a jogger and it's a hobby to you. You're a HOBBY-JOGGER!

What if you're old stiff with arthritis...breaking 25 at a 5k isn't any accomplishment? ?

Renewed1 wrote:

Letsrun.com is a place where 120pound runners can hide behind their keyboards and feel tough for once.

That's funny!

Bruin1996 wrote:

I read somewhere that jogging is defined as running slower than 10:00/mile pace. I think therefore 4:20 or so Marathon is the cutoff for hobby jogger (maybe a 4:05 for men and 4:35 for women?) I consider most of my running friends(ranging from 2:3x to 3:0x marathoners) to be running enthusiasts or at least hobby runners. I know plenty of hobby joggers or even hobby jog-walkers (Galloway) and walkers in my casual running club who finish marathons. They are still healthier than the average obese, out of shape middle aged American who would have trouble briskly waking a few miles.

Is there really a certain pace that differentiates jogging from running? I think the term jogging is obsolete.

Slow running could be fast jogging.

Slow jogging could be fast walking.

If you're moving your legs faster than walking then you're running.

The spectrum of running is colossal.

At one end of the spectrum there are very slow runners and at the other end there are very fast runners...really nothing new there. ?

You're welcome.

themanontherun wrote:

I've always thought the "does it cost you vs. does it make you money" delineation is a good one; there is no difference between a 2:30 and a 5:30 marathoner. Both are spending more than they're taking in for racing annually. I know that's an unpopular opinion around here though.

I'm not sure about this. A 2:30 marathoner can probably win some money in local races. He can also get free entry. I know someone who hasn't even run a marathon, but had run a half in 68 who was offered travel and accommodation. Do you include these kinds of benefits in kind? There may be other sources of income which

Maybe 2:30 isn't fast enough, but there are some runners who are far below professional standard who are breaking even.

On the other hand, even if running makes you money now, maybe it's costing you money in the long-run. Some of the runners who get paid to try to run a marathon in about 2:10 for a few years after college would be better off getting a job. Similarly if you get a scholarship for grad school, you would be better working in a lot of cases.

So if you really apply the "does it cost you vs. does it make you money" delineation rigorously, some faster runners are actually hobby joggers.