Am I the only one who has little sympathy for these people?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Give me, give me, give me wrote:

You are so proud of your compassion and I’m sure you want “the government” to assist.

There are some of us who still think taking personal responsibility for their lives is ultimately the better way to live.

So you've never lost anything. Smug doesn't describe it.

Oh. F**k off. You mean like a TV or some placemats? Get really you lunatic. It’s stuff. Go to a clearance and get it all for nothing! Jeez!

LRC sympathy card, "Sorry you don't have a home to go home devastated to"

Give me, give me, give me wrote:

doo doo wrote:

What's interesting is not only that you don't have sympathy for someone who just lost everything, you also hold them in contempt enough to go on the internet and start a thread about it.

Get a life.

You are so proud of your compassion and I’m sure you want “the government” to assist.

There are some of us who still think taking personal responsibility for their lives is ultimately the better way to live.

So let's get this straight, you're projecting an idea that I haven't advocated for onto me, then arguing against that idea. You should Google the term "logical fallacy." There's a lot of information out there about how to have conversations with what people are actually saying instead of what they're not. It will help you look less crazy.

I hate you MF wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

So you've never lost anything. Smug doesn't describe it.

Oh. F**k off. You mean like a TV or some placemats? Get really you lunatic. It’s stuff. Go to a clearance and get it all for nothing! Jeez!

Nice Trump response.

I agree that people should exercise personal responsibility, but would it not be irresponsible of this unfortunate individual to not use socially acceptable methods of help, like crowdfunding, in order to get back on one’s feet?

It takes great insight to know when one needs help and courage to ask for it.

I think it is irresponsible of this individual to spend money on expensive overseas trips and not have adequate savings for the advised "6 months of living expenses" that financial experts tell us we should have, let alone no renters insurance. I understand that is an enormous reach for many people but since this lady went to an international masters meet in Spain she obviously had some money set aside. I don't consider crowdfunding a socially acceptable method of help. To me, it's online begging. I also don't consider a Go Fund Me account indicative of great insight and courage. It's indicative of poor financial planning and unpreparedness for disaster. There are some instances where the financial resources were never available before disaster and those people are more sympathetic. This individual appeared to have adequate resources to prepare for disaster but chose not to insure or adequately save for it. I certainly wish this lady the best but I'm going to donate my money to different areas. I think she needs to structure loans from family and friends since it appears she now has little collateral for a loan from a financial institution.

100m wrote:

I agree that people should exercise personal responsibility, but would it not be irresponsible of this unfortunate individual to not use socially acceptable methods of help, like crowdfunding, in order to get back on one’s feet?

It takes great insight to know when one needs help and courage to ask for it.

I think the important thing here is we can all come together to nitpick some stranger's decisions. What could be more important on Thanksgiving than feeling superior to other people?

Nah, we'll take a break for today, Mr. Holier than thou. Be back at it tomorrow though.

Ho Hum wrote:

I think the important thing here is we can all come together to nitpick some stranger's decisions. What could be more important on Thanksgiving than feeling superior to other people?

Ho Hum wrote:

I think the important thing here is we can all come together to nitpick some stranger's decisions. What could be more important on Thanksgiving than feeling superior to other people?

A little ironic considering you obviously feel superior to those you accuse of feeling superior.

Thanks, you articulate many great points to which I wholeheartedly agree, Ho hum and friends are pretty lame. My sis and I were talking about the animals who were hurt by the fire....cats with their eyes burned shut and burn wounds.

One thing about the Malibu fire is that many of the victims there are wealthy with the resources to rebuild. The athlete we speak of probably is a lot better off than paradise camp fire if she’s able to travel internationally and live in Malibu.

I hope the givingness of people reach the ones that really need it. I love animals so I’ll definitely donate to an animal burn victim over an athlete with poor financial planning skills.

Hygiene products, toiletries, new beddings, backpacks, non-perishable food are all items that I’m sure most lets-users have in stock. They are also affordable at places like Ross, 99 cent store, and maybe even Costco. Don’t just donate your old used up clothing. They’ve got too much of that and not enough volunteers to sort them out.

Amazon provides a site for donation to animals. Below is an article from the sfchronicles that explains what to donate and how.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/How-to-help-fire-victims-13381066.php

I've never even heard of anyone who has renter's insurance. Not anyone. And yeah, you should have sympathy for the woman. No, she didn't die, but she lost just about everything. Imagine what that feels like. Having sympathy isn't that difficult and it won't hurt you one bit. Why do so many LetsRun people think it's cool to be hardhearted jerks? Because it isn't.

You sound a bit triggered. I know many people with renters insurance. I can’t believe you don’t know a single person. Are you sure? Perhaps do a poll of all your friends and family members and get back to us. I’m curious. I always thought insuring oneself and respective belongings was a part of adulting.

Milkboned wrote:

You sound a bit triggered. I know many people with renters insurance. I can’t believe you don’t know a single person. Are you sure? Perhaps do a poll of all your friends and family members and get back to us. I’m curious. I always thought insuring oneself and respective belongings was a part of adulting.

So is compassion and not judging others. I guess you still have a way to go.

Have Never Even wrote:

I've never even heard of anyone who has renter's insurance. Not anyone. And yeah, you should have sympathy for the woman. No, she didn't die, but she lost just about everything. Imagine what that feels like. Having sympathy isn't that difficult and it won't hurt you one bit. Why do so many LetsRun people think it's cool to be hardhearted jerks? Because it isn't.

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s cool. But some of us also don’t think bailing people out for poor life decisions is always the compassionate response.

Annelies did not start a gofundme campaign.

Her friend Peter Hlavin started a gofundme campaign for her.

fisky wrote:

Annelies did not start a gofundme campaign.

Her friend Peter Hlavin started a gofundme campaign for her.

I have no problem with that. And if I was a friend or a neighbor or a coworker, I would donate.

Exactly. I wish her well. But I only have so much money and IMO there are others more worthy.

Let me give you other people’s money wrote:

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s cool. But some of us also don’t think bailing people out for poor life decisions is always the compassionate response.

Rez wrote:

You people are heartless, bitter and quite frankly awful people. I suppose that pretty much sums up the average snobby runner though. I have every sympathy for somebody who lost everything, this is a real human being who could have sentimental items from her family gone forever. People don”t expect these things to happen, it never crosses their minds as it wouldn’t most people. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done stupid crap in our lives and made decisions that either aren’t that smart or never made them at all due to lack of education on a matter, these people have likely lost friends, family, are probably cold and homeless and have to transition from going from 100 to 0 very quickly.

I agree with every word of this.

Would we also agree that when that stupid crap catches up with us, that we are the only ones responsible?

I wish good health to all of them. Heard the news, and it actually took me 2 whole days to come out of the grief. I don't know what the family members are going through at this stage. Apart from the mental support, they also need someone to manage the financial issues also, as to survive in future they will require some amount of income or property with them. I would suggest them to hire an elder care lawyers ( http://www.scottcounsel.com/ ), they not only will help you in dealing with the legal affairs, but also help in comforting the emotions.