Paul Chelimo says he can tell if someone is fit just by looking at them: "Trust me, I can know.”

Fan of JG wrote:

JLP,Jr wrote:

Gault is beautiful

FTFY

I agree. Gault is holding this site together. He is amazing. I'm passionate about him and he is cute as fukk.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Paul Chelimo is the smartest world class runner around. Guy is a thinker and thinks out of the box. In 20 years he will be doing what Salazar is doing now, only with better results.

Gonna have to disagree there. The guy can’t even run in a pack without tripping over himself or someone else. Does not make good decisions in races. Great runner, not a smart racer.

dusty_xc wrote:

I agree with paul. I recently got to watch mo farah run a track session in Flagstaff, about 3 weeks before chicago. Beforehand I had doubted that he could win that race, but when I shook his hand and just felt his presence it was apparent the incredible shape he was in. It's almost an aura these guys can get. I think its a mix of confidence and physical adaptations your body undergoes through killer training. I imagine after several months of training with kipchoge as his mentor Kam definitely has that aura. Hope all went well with his training, kamworor is one of my favorite runners to watch. Makes everything exciting by mixing with the best on any surface and he shares all the same personal characteristics that make Kipchoge so special.

100% this. Yes, when you see it you know.

Grampsss wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Other runners - particularly previous generations - never did "killer" training, of course. They were such slackers. But the thing about doping is that it enables you to train twice as hard and recover. Welcome to the modern world. So, yes - it is laughable.

Is your old brain unable to produce a thought that is not connected with how everyone is doping (and was if they were Kenyan)?

Where did the poster you replied to say or even suggest that previous generations didn't do killer training?

You just have to fabricate excuses to spew your stupid and baseless opinions on doping.

Long live the great results by the Kenyans you hate so much.

Quite a reaction. Must have touched a nerve. Just what is "killer training"? How about the usual conditioning work - plus drugs? If previous generations of athletes were doing the same kind of training - conditioning work - then their performances would be much the same as athletes today. But they are nowhere near the same. I'll go with the logical explanation, that the difference is drugs.

Yeah, excuse it. Look at a druggie and see what they're taking.

They grow there own trees, don't they? wrote:

Fan of JG wrote:

FTFY

I agree. Gault is holding this site together. He is amazing. I'm passionate about him and he is cute as fukk.

Who is Jon Gault?

physics defiant wrote:

skylon69 wrote:

In 1981, Toshihiko Seko visited the Bill Rodgers Running Center a couple of days before Boston. Bill Rodgers said the same thing--"Seko looked ready to roll", or something to the same effect about how he looked regarding his fitness.

It was more like: "That's the fittest human being I've ever seen".

That's it!! LOL (Thanks!)

Armstronglivs wrote:

Grampsss wrote:

Is your old brain unable to produce a thought that is not connected with how everyone is doping (and was if they were Kenyan)?

Where did the poster you replied to say or even suggest that previous generations didn't do killer training?

You just have to fabricate excuses to spew your stupid and baseless opinions on doping.

Long live the great results by the Kenyans you hate so much.

Quite a reaction. Must have touched a nerve. Just what is "killer training"? How about the usual conditioning work - plus drugs? If previous generations of athletes were doing the same kind of training - conditioning work - then their performances would be much the same as athletes today. But they are nowhere near the same. I'll go with the logical explanation, that the difference is drugs.

Get off the site you fukkking geezer. Im suprised you even know how to use your computer. As time passes athletes and training get better. Its why WRs havnt remained stagnant for hundreds of years. Sorry to burst your bubble but there isnt anymore cinder tracks. Quit blaming your heros loss of records on EPO you gohtdammed dumbell.

dbsquirtNXC21 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Quite a reaction. Must have touched a nerve. Just what is "killer training"? How about the usual conditioning work - plus drugs? If previous generations of athletes were doing the same kind of training - conditioning work - then their performances would be much the same as athletes today. But they are nowhere near the same. I'll go with the logical explanation, that the difference is drugs.

Get off the site you fukkking geezer. Im suprised you even know how to use your computer. As time passes athletes and training get better. Its why WRs havnt remained stagnant for hundreds of years. Sorry to burst your bubble but there isnt anymore cinder tracks. Quit blaming your heros loss of records on EPO you gohtdammed dumbell.

So we've just established that you have no idea what "killer training" is. Thanks. BTW, don't forget your mood-control medication. You'll have the guys in white coats turning up again if you don't take it.

The runner's 6th sense. We all know.

We can also tell who looks like a good potential runner or not when we look at random people in grocery stores and shopping malls.

Bodyfat. You can see it in the face and forearms. When you are lighter than usual, you will perform better. All elites will be ready - it is their job. At 2-3 seconds/kg/km, 0.5kg lighter is a 60 second advantage.

FelonDJT wrote:

Bodyfat. You can see it in the face and forearms. When you are lighter than usual, you will perform better. All elites will be ready - it is their job. At 2-3 seconds/kg/km, 0.5kg lighter is a 60 second advantage.

All brought about by "killer training", no doubt.

Armstronglivs wrote:

FelonDJT wrote:

Bodyfat. You can see it in the face and forearms. When you are lighter than usual, you will perform better. All elites will be ready - it is their job. At 2-3 seconds/kg/km, 0.5kg lighter is a 60 second advantage.

All brought about by "killer training", no doubt.

Yes, like John Landy did. Or Emil Zátopek. Or Wilson Kipsang, Eliud Kipchoge, etc.

Emil Landy wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

All brought about by "killer training", no doubt.

Yes, like John Landy did. Or Emil Zátopek. Or Wilson Kipsang, Eliud Kipchoge, etc.

Except Landy and Zatopek must have been running on one leg.

skylon69 wrote:

physics defiant wrote:

It was more like: "That's the fittest human being I've ever seen".

That's it!! LOL (Thanks!)

In that awesome video that was posted a few months back (the one that documented Bill’s day when he dropped out of Boston), he said something very similar about Jerome Drayton.

On another note - of course Chelimo can tell if someone is supremely fit by looking at them. I can too assuming it is someone I see/race against regularly. It doesn’t astute powers of observation either; it’s pretty obvious.

You can tell; the face will be gaunt but not sickly...

Armstronglivs wrote:

Emil Landy wrote:

Yes, like John Landy did. Or Emil Zátopek. Or Wilson Kipsang, Eliud Kipchoge, etc.

Except Landy and Zatopek must have been running on one leg.

On two legs each :)

I bet they would have been a lot faster had they been full-time professionals, if they had knowledge about training methodology, and, very importantly, good training groups. Zátopek and Landy both trained alone for the almost entirety of their careers.

And you have the example of Ron Clarke, running 27:39 in 1965, on his own.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ron would be able to run 26:50 if he could be training like Kipchoge does, at altitude, full-time dedication to the sport, amazing training group.

Of course every one could be doping now. It is also possible that not everyone is doping.

Emil Landy wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Except Landy and Zatopek must have been running on one leg.

On two legs each :)

I bet they would have been a lot faster had they been full-time professionals, if they had knowledge about training methodology, and, very importantly, good training groups. Zátopek and Landy both trained alone for the almost entirety of their careers.

And you have the example of Ron Clarke, running 27:39 in 1965, on his own.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ron would be able to run 26:50 if he could be training like Kipchoge does, at altitude, full-time dedication to the sport, amazing training group.

Of course every one could be doping now. It is also possible that not everyone is doping.

A recent Harvard study says its over 40% of elites. Nearly one in every two runners. Who would trust the validity of any record today with those kinds of odds? There's no way the best clean runners will be the best doped runners. Just the same as cycling.

"We asked Chelimo whether he was confident that those guys ran those times clean. He said that he judges athletes by the graph of their performances.

“Running is all about the graph,” Chelimo said. “If you have a graph that is going up and down, up and down, up and down, crazy like crazy, something is weird. But if you have a graph that you’re progressing, your PB’s not that crazy, it should tell you something about your fitness type…If anyone has a crazy graph, I don’t believe it, that’s all I can say. You go check, go do your research and check the graphs.”"

So Berega fades at 13:21 pace (World Juniors) and again at 13:50 pace (African Champs) yet isn't even exhausted in $50,000 Diamond League final at 6s off the world record pace. Going by Chelimo logic Berega is dirty as #%¥&