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      • Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 9:45AM
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      • Ken Goe has the story on Orgeonlive.

        https://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2018/10/distance_runner_galen_rupp_und.html#incart_river_index

        Rupp had been battling an Achilles injury in the leadup to Chicago and said that it flared up near the end of the race. Last week, he decided to get surgery "to correct a condition called Haglund's Deformity, a bony bump on his heel that was causing his Achilles tendon to fray."

        Here's more from Ken Goe's article for The Oregonian:

        Rupp's problems began in earnest the next day, when his left foot was so swollen he had trouble walking. After consulting with his doctors, Rupp decided surgery was the best option.

        During the surgery Dr. Amol Saxena detached part of Rupp's Achilles, reshaped the heel and reattached the tendon.

        Saxena said Rupp's Achilles had partially torn in two places.

        "He's pretty amazing," Saxena said. "I've treated almost 100 Olympians. He definitely has the highest pain threshold of anybody I've treated."

        Had Rupp put off the surgery, Saxena said, the Achilles could have torn completely.

        "It's one of those things where it's better to do it when you can plan it," Saxena said. "Sometimes it just tears, and you can't plan for that. The recovery is a lot longer when you completely rupture it.


        Rupp really wants to win the Boston Marathon but he'll have to wait until 2021 -- when he'll be 34 -- to get another shot at it as he won't be running a marathon next spring and will have to do the Olympic Trials in 2020.
    • Seriously mate?
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 9:49AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • Seriously mate?
      • Welp were in for nearly 18 months of terrible marathon performances from American's. This is depressing news.
    • Oh Please
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 9:56AM - in reply to Seriously mate?
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      • It's still pretty darn impressive he ran 206 like that.
    • rojo
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 9:57AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • rojo
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      • What do Rojo and Galen Rupp have in common?

        We've both had Achilles surgery done by Amol Saxena.

        LetsRun.com wrote:

        "He's pretty amazing," Saxena said. "I've treated almost 100 Olympians. He definitely has the highest pain threshold of anybody I've treated."


        That being said, I'm pissed that Saxena threw me under bus. Initially, I thought his quote about Rupp's pain threshold left open the possibility that I have a higher pain threshold than Rupp (as I'm a non Olympian) but reading it again, I realize he's sayhing Rupp has the highest pain threshold of anyone - not just the Olympians.

        I was hoping one could interpret that quote as , "I've treated almost 100 Olympians. He definitely has the highest pain threshold of any Olympian I've ever treated but there was a spare 2:23 marathoner who was even tougher," but that doesn't seem to be the case.

        On a serious note, can a medical professional tell me how he knows how much pain someone is feeling?

        As for recovery time, I don't know if all Achilles surgeries are the same but after mine I kept calling Amol every few months saying my Achilles still hurt. He kept telling me to do my rehab and to not be worried until 365 days had passed. He said sometimes it took a year. If it hurt after 1 year, then he'd take another look. Sure enough around 12 months all pain stopped.
    • Kudos to RoJo
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:03AM - in reply to rojo
      • Kudos to RoJo
      • rojo wrote: Initially, I thought his quote about Rupp's pain threshold left open the possibility that I have a higher pain threshold...

        Not to worry, RoJo. The fact that you remain a Trump supporter shows that you have a higher pain threshold than normal people. I suppose you can take some dubious pride in that.
    • rojo
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:06AM - in reply to Oh Please
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      • Oh Please wrote:

        It's still pretty darn impressive he ran 206 like that.

        It certainly could explain why he faded late in Chicago. While the biggest issue for me was getting a workout started (I'd pop like 4 advil before every workout), I also realized it would come back to hurt at the end of a long run. I basically determined it was impossible to just gut through it and run well. If your body is injured, it's going to effect you eventually particularly in a 26.2 race as you'll favor one side or something.

        I think the best shape I ever was in was when I paced Catherine Ndereba to the WR in Chicago in 2001 (or at least for a little more than half when she dropped me). That was supposed to be a workout as I was going to do Marine Corps the next year but my Achilles hurt so much after that I didn't sget to do my goal marathon. I then wasted a few years trying to run through it before having surgery.

        This was the time to have it. There is zero chance for him to try to work through it as he wants to be fully 100% for the Trials.
    • It's code for
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:08AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • It's code for
      • LetsRun.com wrote:

        "He's pretty amazing," Saxena said. "I've treated almost 100 Olympians. He definitely has the highest pain threshold of anybody I've treated."

        Looks like Rupp was racing on Tramadol. Dirty Salazar strikes again.
    • Dril
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:16AM - in reply to rojo
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      • rojo wrote:

        On a serious note, can a medical professional tell me how he knows how much pain someone is feeling?


        It's not rocket science. They look at what condition his Achilles was in, take into account the fact that he was still running on it, which included a 2:06 marathon, and conclude that he has a high pain threshold.
    • dunes runner
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, due to wearing Nike shoes. 10/24/2018 10:20AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
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      • The same thing has happened to both Hasay and Rupp.

        The Nike shoes are terrible and cause injuries. Stay way from Nike shoes if you don't want to be injured.
    • Scorpion_runner
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:21AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
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      • Wow.

        Hasay out due to a recurring fracture in the same foot, and now Rupp will be out. One poster on here, and I can't remember his name, predict this for both athletes.

        He is going to miss an immense amount of training and conditioning. Will he even be ready to go for the fall, and this could affect him going into 2020?

        I guess AL can really dedicate his time to turning Sifan Hassan and Yomif , as well as working with the middle distance guys.

        This is really, really bad.
    • Pain Les
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:23AM - in reply to It's code for
      • Pain Les
      • It's code for wrote:

        LetsRun.com wrote:

        "He's pretty amazing," Saxena said. "I've treated almost 100 Olympians. He definitely has the highest pain threshold of anybody I've treated."

        Looks like Rupp was racing on Tramadol. Dirty Salazar strikes again.

        Yup. Magically discovered by Salazar. Magically has highest pain threshold of all time.
    • Runnergrl
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:24AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
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      • Well that’s a bummer. In some ways I think he needed some down time. Isn’t this his first major injury? After almost two decades that’s pretty good.
        Is this a career ending injury?
    • hidden injury
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:33AM - in reply to Runnergrl
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      • Runnergrl wrote:

        Well that’s a bummer. In some ways I think he needed some down time. Isn’t this his first major injury? After almost two decades that’s pretty good.
        Is this a career ending injury?

        Given that he was the highest pain threshold a doctor who has treated 100 Olympians has ever seen you would think he has multiple injuries over the years. You haven't heard about any of them because that is the way Salazar operates--keep it quiet.
    • hidden injury
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:34AM - in reply to hidden injury
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      • I should add that it would be investing to find out if Farah also has a super high pain threshold, as well as Centro.
    • Gravy
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      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:35AM - in reply to Scorpion_runner
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      • Scorpion_runner wrote:
        One poster on here, and I can't remember his name, predict this for both athletes.
        .

        I'm sure I wasn't the only one, but I probably received the most hate for even making the prediction.
    • Pump Bump
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:45AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
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      • I also have haglunds so I'll be interested to see how it goes for Rupp, the surgery looks pretty terrible with mixed success.

        A fun side note that I have learned is that the slang term for haglunds is "Pump Bump" because it is most common in people who extensively wear high heels...read into that what you will.
    • Runnergrl
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:47AM - in reply to Gravy
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      • I don’t think he has had tons of injuries. He has not missed tons of races due to injury.
        Can someone elaborate what kind of recovery it will take ? They say by next summer but sounds like that is best case scenario.
        This might be a good thing if he recovers well. Forced rest right before the trials. Good thing he really does not have to go all out for the trials.
        I’m not an elite runner. I know as a hobby runner taking time off due to injury you usually come back refreshed and stronger. But someone like Galen could this set him back too much before the olympics? Any thoughts? Rojo you had the surgery how was your recovery?
    • Zzzzzzz
      • RE: Galen Rupp undergoes foot surgery, will miss 2019 spring marathon season 10/24/2018 10:50AM - in reply to rojo
      • Zzzzzzz
      • rojo wrote:

        Oh Please wrote:

        It's still pretty darn impressive he ran 206 like that.

        It certainly could explain why he faded late in Chicago. While the biggest issue for me was getting a workout started (I'd pop like 4 advil before every workout), I also realized it would come back to hurt at the end of a long run. I basically determined it was impossible to just gut through it and run well. If your body is injured, it's going to effect you eventually particularly in a 26.2 race as you'll favor one side or something.

        I think the best shape I ever was in was when I paced Catherine Ndereba to the WR in Chicago in 2001 (or at least for a little more than half when she dropped me). That was supposed to be a workout as I was going to do Marine Corps the next year but my Achilles hurt so much after that I didn't sget to do my goal marathon. I then wasted a few years trying to run through it before having surgery.

        This was the time to have it. There is zero chance for him to try to work through it as he wants to be fully 100% for the Trials.

        Zzzzz. Literally boring. He slowed because he got pummelled. Stop making excuses for a defeat. God bless Mohamed.