They should let Tuohy run against the guys

yeer wrote:

Smacky the Regulator wrote:

None.

Says the old man stuck in his biased frame of mind. No doubt males on average run faster than females, but there are always outliers on both ends of the bell shaped curve who are ill served by the current tradition of separating genders both on and off the track. Perhaps kids should be categorized by their times instead of gender. If you're over a certain mark, you run with others of that mark.

You know nothing. Be quiet and stop proving it.

I think it would be amusing if she was allowed to compete with the guys at some meets (not championships etc.).

Some Middle School XC races are combined and sometimes the top girls can get some really impressive times since they have the boys as competition.

Just recently as well, there was a HS XC meet in Montana called the Capital City 7 on 7 where some national caliber girls like Tianha Vladic and Ember Stratton got to race with the varsity boys.

I think it would be a bit unusual if Tuohy was the only girl in a race against all the boys... but if there was combined gender xc race she could do that would be neat.

Smack the Regulator wrote:

yeer wrote:

Says the old man stuck in his biased frame of mind. No doubt males on average run faster than females, but there are always outliers on both ends of the bell shaped curve who are ill served by the current tradition of separating genders both on and off the track. Perhaps kids should be categorized by their times instead of gender. If you're over a certain mark, you run with others of that mark.

You know nothing. Be quiet and stop proving it.

I know you lack vision and innovative ideas.

yeer wrote:

Smacky the Regulator wrote:

None.

Says the old man stuck in his biased frame of mind. No doubt males on average run faster than females, but there are always outliers on both ends of the bell shaped curve who are ill served by the current tradition of separating genders both on and off the track. Perhaps kids should be categorized by their times instead of gender. If you're over a certain mark, you run with others of that mark.

+1

I think one should be allowed to compete with whoever you want, but just because a girl (in this case) is so much better than other girls doesn't mean she should have to compete against boys, nor be able to win a separate girls championship.

Duane wrote:

I think one should be allowed to compete with whoever you want, but just because a girl (in this case) is so much better than other girls doesn't mean she should have to compete against boys, nor be able to win a separate girls championship.

agreed. Girls should have the option of racing against the guys, but not the other way around. They shouldn't be forced into competing against guys, and if they want to win the girls champs, that's cool too.

The thing is KT is as fast as top hs guys, and so I think if she wants competition she should be allowed to race against them

Duane wrote:

I think one should be allowed to compete with whoever you want, but just because a girl (in this case) is so much better than other girls doesn't mean she should have to compete against boys, nor be able to win a separate girls championship.

She has put a pretty large gap on other girls, so yeah, she could be beat some decent HS boys. But so what. If you want to compare her to GOAT male runners just subtract about 30 seconds per mile from her times.

I see I mistyped. "I think one should be allowed to compete with whoever you want, but just because a girl (in this case) is so much better than other girls doesn't mean she should have to compete against boys, nor be able to win a separate girls championship."

Should be I think one should be allowed to compete with whoever you want, but just because a girl (in this case) is so much better than other girls doesn't mean she should have to compete against boys, nor NOT be able to win a separate girls championship.

In other words, there should be a separate girls championship. Sorry for any confusion as to what I meant.

...and 100 years ago, people believed that it was normal that blacks should only compete against blacks and whites only compete against whites.

Hopefully, in the next decade, people will accept the fact that women are not second class citizens and that they will be allowed to compete equally against men and not be forced to compete in an arbitrary category which was made up by society.

Some sports are already embracing that.