No clue wrote:
LRC is full of people with tons of free time. Good for you. 1:40 is my long run on a good Sunday and I've run faster PR than OP on 30-40mpw.
you guys are wimps
No clue wrote:
LRC is full of people with tons of free time. Good for you. 1:40 is my long run on a good Sunday and I've run faster PR than OP on 30-40mpw.
you guys are wimps
No clue wrote:LRC is full of people with tons of free time. Good for you. 1:40 is my long run on a good Sunday and I've run faster PR than OP on 30-40mpw.
Thanks for the advice all and even the guy who wished me a stress fracture!
Time is not an problem, when I was running 50mpw, I was working 70 to 80 hours every week. I moved jobs and only work 40-45 now, Time is everywhere if you make it and doubling my previous highest running time should not be difficult when I have 40 more hours in the week. 100 miles might take 13 or 14 hours which used to be just one single workday when looked at from another perspective.
The biggest hurdle will be tiredness and chance of injury but those are risks I am willing to take as I won't find my limits unless I push them. If I get injured, I get injured and will have learned a lot. That is why I am taking on this challenge.
Poirot wrote:
Thanks for the advice all and even the guy who wished me a stress fracture!
Time is not an problem, when I was running 50mpw, I was working 70 to 80 hours every week. I moved jobs and only work 40-45 now, Time is everywhere if you make it and doubling my previous highest running time should not be difficult when I have 40 more hours in the week. 100 miles might take 13 or 14 hours which used to be just one single workday when looked at from another perspective.
The biggest hurdle will be tiredness and chance of injury but those are risks I am willing to take as I won't find my limits unless I push them. If I get injured, I get injured and will have learned a lot. That is why I am taking on this challenge.
Nobody wishes you a stress fracture! They're just giving you a hard time in an attempt to dissuade you from doing something foolish.
That said, it appears you are all in. So, please make sure to keep this thread updated. There's nothing worse than blue balls.
Jimmy21 wrote:
Rattle Pad wrote:
Agreed, 100mpw is insaenly time consuming you really cannot work full time and do it (and still be sane). The most i've ever done is 79 in a week and i was on vacation.
Im currently running 60mpw and i work 60 hours per week snd have a family. Over the winter, i was doing 70mpw and working 60 hours and not running on sundays. Im pretty sure, if i took Saturdays off work and worked 2 hours less per day, i could have found all the time in the world to run an extra 30 miles without much struggle
60 mpw + 60 hours per week + family? How much do you sleep per night? Does your wife work? How many kids do you have? Unless you sleep 6 hours per night, my guess is someone is being neglected.
The Way We Were wrote:
Rattle Pad wrote:
Agreed, 100mpw is insaenly time consuming you really cannot work full time and do it (and still be sane). The most i've ever done is 79 in a week and i was on vacation.
At 7 min / mile, 100mpw takes only 1:40 per day. Unless you work 80+ hrs/wk, you should have enough time. It's all about motivation.
I live at altitude - the only way I would be running 100 mpw at 7 min pace would be to OTQ and I’m not that fast and neither is this board.
Poirot wrote:
Thanks for the advice all and even the guy who wished me a stress fracture!
Nobody wishes you a stress fracture. But I have seen it plenty of times. Runners who bump up their mileage to fast ended up with a stress fracture.
Again, why you think you need 100 miles a week for training?
Keep in mind that the faster you get the more miles you can cover in the same time and that's why great runners have high mileage. If slower runners try the same mileage it does not make them faster.
Of course if you bump up your mileage from 25 to 35 or 50 miles per week you probably will see an increase in performance. But that is not a linear line towards 100 miles. The return on training miles will decrease.
From what I have seen is, that amateur runners do best within 25-60 maybe 80 miles per week. Runners have even won World Championships in ultrarunning with that kind of mileage.
But as other posters mentioned. Just try to get to 100 mpw and see what happens.
Hopefully you reduce the mileage before it hurts you.
(Former 3:06 Marathoner with 30-40 miles per week)
I went from about 60 miles a week to 100 miles for a single week in about the same amount of time. After that, I did about 50 mpw as I recovered from the various injuries I inflicted upon myself. I had actually strained my stomach muscles. My Doc thought that my stomach was overexerted by trying to counteract my arm string.
Anyhow, don't try to just add on 5 miles per week. Instead, do half the mileage every 3rd or 4th week, so your body can recover some. For example, don't do the following weekly mileage:
50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, ...
Instead, do this over the 13 weeks:
50, 55, 60, 30, 70, 75, 80, 40, 85, 90, 95, 50, 100
Good Luck!
model parent wrote:
Jimmy21 wrote:
Im currently running 60mpw and i work 60 hours per week snd have a family. Over the winter, i was doing 70mpw and working 60 hours and not running on sundays. Im pretty sure, if i took Saturdays off work and worked 2 hours less per day, i could have found all the time in the world to run an extra 30 miles without much struggle
60 mpw + 60 hours per week + family? How much do you sleep per night? Does your wife work? How many kids do you have? Unless you sleep 6 hours per night, my guess is someone is being neglected.
I'm more concerned about all you posters working 80+hr weeks. Is this the Trump America? I top out at 35 even that seems too much, why would anyone unless it's your own business work 80hrs a week?
Poirot wrote:
I'm 28, 6 foot 2 and weigh 147lbs.
Are you a stick?? 6 foot 2 and 147 lbs?!? being out of physical activity for a year. Jealous.
Trashman wrote:
Poirot wrote:
I'm 28, 6 foot 2 and weigh 147lbs.
Are you a stick?? 6 foot 2 and 147 lbs?!? being out of physical activity for a year. Jealous.
Ha, it's just the weight I naturally fall into even when training. I don't gain or lose a lot but that might change with higher volume.
Poirot wrote:
Couch may be exaggerating but that is where I am starting after a year of no running. Never run more than 55 miles in a week before when I was and currently out of shape but want to see what would happen if I started running 100mpw. I'm 28, 6 foot 2 and weigh 147lbs. PR's are slow with 39 minute 10k and 3:12 marathon. Have not had serious injury and want to try out this fabled letsrun thought experiment. What can the average healthy male run if seriously trained?
Experiment starts Monday with a build-up to 100mpw by the end of the year for a spring marathon.
Going from 0-100 in 13 weeks isn't "seriously" trained" it's just running a lot.
First week down
Week 1-
Mon: 7m EZ(9:21)
Tue: AM 3m EZ(9:15) PM: 5 m EZ(9:03)
Wed: 6m EZ(8:56)
Thu: AM 3m EZ(x:xx)PM: 5m EZ(x:xx)
Fri: 5m EZ(8:52)
Sat: Rest
Sun: 9m
Tot: 43m
43 for the week which means I'm almost half way there:p. My first goal this week was just to find out how I felt on these runs while upping the volume and then back off a bit more on the effort as this is going to be a balancing act and as I'm not going to be careful with the increase in volume, I have to be careful with the pace. I haven't ran in a year so first obvious lesson is that I'm slower and not in good aerobic shape. The volume felt quite manageable though for now although I expect that to change but I also expect I'll gain back alot of the fitness I lost in the last fairly quickly which should offset it to some degree. I actually already started to feel looser as the week went on but early days yet.
This is going to be interesting. Thanks for sharing it all.
If you have not started already, definitely do some strength/mobility work. Check out Jay Johnson's Lunge Matrix. Takes just a few minutes and you can do it before each run. Works wonders. Also try some specific work for the feet and calves, as they can take something of a beating. Calf drops/raises, towel crunches with the toes, short walks in the grass barefoot, etc.
running commenter wrote:
Poirot wrote:
Couch may be exaggerating but that is where I am starting after a year of no running. Never run more than 55 miles in a week before when I was and currently out of shape but want to see what would happen if I started running 100mpw. I'm 28, 6 foot 2 and weigh 147lbs. PR's are slow with 39 minute 10k and 3:12 marathon. Have not had serious injury and want to try out this fabled letsrun thought experiment. What can the average healthy male run if seriously trained?
Experiment starts Monday with a build-up to 100mpw by the end of the year for a spring marathon.
Going from 0-100 in 13 weeks isn't "seriously" trained" it's just running a lot.
First you get the volume, then you get the speed, then you get the results.
I have to teach my body to tolerate the volume, then I can modulate training as or how my body adapts(if it does).
You're almost sure to get an injury. And if you do manage to survive, I doubt if you'll run any faster than if you had just followed a normal progression up to 60-70. Take your time and consider running a Fall marathon as well.