why don't you leave today ? and you call yourself an AMERICAN. BS
why don't you leave today ? and you call yourself an AMERICAN. BS
A country invades US soil? Absolutely! I don't need to sign up for that, I already have an arsenal at my home. Not that i expect that to happen, I just like collecting guns and ammunition. Some people collect stamps... I collect guns. Probably thanks to my Grandfathers service/sacrifice in WWII. The US starting or participating in a war in another country??? Hell NO!!!! We need to focus on our own problems before trying to "fix" other countries.
A war on US soil is a free for all in my mind though.
Honestly i'm surprised our racist president hasn't started WW3 yet and I hope he gets impeached before he does. Now if some Red Dawn stuff happened heck yeah I would fight but I wouldn't enlist again because well I got's an other then honorable discharge from having way too much fun in Austrailia lol opps.
Colin Kaepernick is 6'5" 230 lbs of elite multi-sport athlete. Do you really think you are more physically capable than him in any endeavor?
I'd volunteer the homeless.
HRH wrote:
Strikes me the next war Americans will be engaged in will be a civil war against each other.
What’s going on in your Senate right now has the rest of the world shaking their heads in disbelief.
I've really hate to say it but I don't think this is at all out of the realm of possibility. Where is the middle ground, the compromise between the southern evangelical christian who thinks Trump was sent by gawd to turn america into a theocracy, and the urban progressive who wants us to stay in the 21st century and desires membership in the global community? I don't see any.
Carnivore 69 wrote:
Of course. I was part of several overseas deployments in the 1990s in the Army. Anyone on this board worth a damn would gladly serve his country in war.
So if the orange dick-knob in the white house convinces congress to go to war in (insert random crap-hole here) so as to divert the easily diverted american public from some looming scandal, you'd send your son over there because "I'm an American dammit?" wow. I would help defend our country in a second from external attack but mindlessly going to battle over oil or politics or whatever the f**k is idiotic.
Carnivore 69 wrote:
Of course. I was part of several overseas deployments in the 1990s in the Army. Anyone on this board worth a damn would gladly serve his country in war.
Thank you for your service. However, the big oil companies and the defense contractors, were the real winners here. Sending young American boys to die for oil and their profits all under the illusion that we are fighting to "protect America". We fought no war in the 90's worth being involved in. There were countless wars going on, on almost all the continents, but we only focus on the ones that will make us money. In its current form people might serve in the US military but they are really serving big business.
Nigel_Bikes wrote:
Why do Americans always want to go to war, start wars?
military
industrial
complex
"This War Brought to you by_______________" wrote:
Carnivore 69 wrote:
Of course. I was part of several overseas deployments in the 1990s in the Army. Anyone on this board worth a damn would gladly serve his country in war.
Thank you for your service. However, the big oil companies and the defense contractors, were the real winners here. Sending young American boys to die for oil and their profits all under the illusion that we are fighting to "protect America". We fought no war in the 90's worth being involved in. There were countless wars going on, on almost all the continents, but we only focus on the ones that will make us money. In its current form people might serve in the US military but they are really serving big business.
I’m baffled as to why anyone in the USA would proudly claim to have been a member of their armed forces.
As far as I can see, the last military campaign that was successful for America was the Okinawa invasion in 1945.
Everything since has either been a military or political disaster.
HRH wrote:As far as I can see, the last military campaign that was successful for America was the Okinawa invasion in 1945. Everything since has either been a military or political disaster.Korea was kind of a stalemate. It did stop the flow of communism from China, North Korea, and the Soviet Union to the entire Korean peninsular, but yeah, I get your point.
Military Blunders wrote:
HRH wrote:As far as I can see, the last military campaign that was successful for America was the Okinawa invasion in 1945. Everything since has either been a military or political disaster.
Korea was kind of a stalemate. It did stop the flow of communism from China, North Korea, and the Soviet Union to the entire Korean peninsular, but yeah, I get your point.
Yes, your MacArthur managed to snatch defeat (or stalemate) from the jaws of victory by insisting on advancing to the Chinese border.
One of our foremost historians (Max Hastings) has just written a book on the Vietnam War, I’ve just ordered a copy and I venture it will make disturbing reading from an American readership.
HRH wrote:One of our foremost historians (Max Hastings) has just written a book on the Vietnam War, I’ve just ordered a copy and I venture it will make disturbing reading from an American readership.I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Vietnam War (the American one) has been discussed beyond infinity. I guess it would be disturbing for some and validation for others depending upon one's viewpoint of the whole thing. To think that the US once backed Ho Chi Minh then later turned to fight him is riveting. I don't think much would surprise me about the American involvement in that war. It was basically flawed from the beginning.
runner3344 wrote:
why don't you leave today ? and you call yourself an AMERICAN. BS
Why do you hate freedom so much?
HRH wrote:
I’m baffled as to why anyone in the USA would proudly claim to have been a member of their armed forces.
As far as I can see, the last military campaign that was successful for America was the Okinawa invasion in 1945.
Everything since has either been a military or political disaster.
I thought Grenada went pretty well.
Not so fast bro wrote:
HRH wrote:
I’m baffled as to why anyone in the USA would proudly claim to have been a member of their armed forces.
As far as I can see, the last military campaign that was successful for America was the Okinawa invasion in 1945.
Everything since has either been a military or political disaster.
I thought Grenada went pretty well.
There were very few casualties in Grenada but my friend's little brother was actually killed in Grenada.
KIA - Grenada wrote:
Not so fast bro wrote:
I thought Grenada went pretty well.
There were very few casualties in Grenada but my friend's little brother was actually killed in Grenada.
He was very, very unfortunate as only 19 US troopers were killed in the invasion.
The power of Hollywood, Clint Eastwood made that invasion seem as the equivalent of the D-Day landings.
Compare that with the deaths of 20,000 British troops (and 40,000 casualties) on the first DAY of the Somme battle in 1916.
[quote]Stuffness wrote:
Holy crap. The point isn't that Hitler could or couldn't have killed every Jew in the world. He was trying to kill every one that he could get his hands on.
Nonsense. Had the plan actually been to kill all the Jews then all the Jews in the camps would have been killed.
Balogna Guy wrote:
[quote]Stuffness wrote:
Holy crap. The point isn't that Hitler could or couldn't have killed every Jew in the world. He was trying to kill every one that he could get his hands on.
Nonsense. Had the plan actually been to kill all the Jews then all the Jews in the camps would have been killed.
Exactly, in actual fact, over 6 million ‘holocaust survivors’ successfully claimed billions in compensation from the post war German government.
A neat trick considering meticulous SS records show there were only 6 million of them throughout all the territory occupied by the Germans during 41-45.
Equally noticeable are the large numbers of Jews who held high positions in the Stalinist communist governments that replaced the short Nazi period of occupation in East Europe., despite the fact that Hitler had supposedly killed them all.
More Germans died in Eisenhower’s ‘death camps’ post-war from starvation and neglect than Jews died in concentration camps.
Also, International Jewry declared war to the death on Hitler the moment he became Chancellor in 1933 - no wonder he was a bit miffed!
https://archive.org/stream/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933_djvu.txtCarnivore 69 wrote:
Of course. I was part of several overseas deployments in the 1990s in the Army. Anyone on this board worth a damn would gladly serve his country in war.
I'm sure you're possessed of great personal bravery and that you served with courage. I don't mean to take away from that. You are probably an honorable individual; our political and military leaders are not. The U.S. conflicts of the 90s did not serve our country in the slightest.