jew know? wrote:
Blarg wrote:
War does absolutely nothing to fix these issues, it just introduces more weapons into the mix.
War stopped Hitler from wiping out the jews.
The US didn't enter the war to save Jews.
Indeed the US turned many Jewish refugees away.
No way.
Wars just ain't what they used to be, if you know what I mean.
madarin wrote:
serving my rulers wrote:
Of course I would! I couldn’t call myself an American if I wouldn’t be willing to lay down my life for Halliburton.
You spelled Israel incorrectly.
This was funny :)
Before anyone join the military they should read General Smedley Butler's book "War is a racket" first.
Of course, we have to support the military industrial complex.
I once heard a guy say that history shows war is only about two things, conquest and plunder. It's always an elite class who declare the war and it's always the poor class who fight it.
What this means is that if you are willing to go to war youre one of two individuals: the stupid poor one or the rich one who shouts orders over a walkie talkie
Only for the Amerikan Revolution II
The president a lot of you voted for would not.
"True dat"
He would just get another (6th?) draft deferment once the draft was established.
SalmonRice wrote:
I applied 5 months ago to join as a Nursing Officer in my country (Canada). I would absolutely fight for my home and people, but my education and passion is better served by helping heal others.
The Canadian Armed Forces also provides benefits seen no where else in the country. Half the reason I'm joining is because Lt (2nd) pay and support is 20k over any hospital job for nurses directly out of school.
Canadians are lucky. Due to their close proximity to the USA basically all of their defense is provided for by the Americans. They pretty much have Sea and Air covered for them.
jew know? wrote:War stopped Hitler from wiping out the jews.False! Only from wiping out European Jews and there were still many Soviet Jews. There were a lot of other Jews around the world with many of them in the USA.
Lame wrote:
Absolutely if it was Russia, China, North Korea or Iran.
Actually most of the evidence of September 11th points towards an attempt by the Saudi Royal family to manipulate world oil prices more than any other country (it's where the majority of the hijackers came from, it's where the majority of the funding for Al Qaeda came from, it's where Osama was from, and it's who would have benefitted most had oil prices gone sky high as the plan intended). The only reason there has not been another major terror attack on the US is because the plan caused oil prices to drop as Americans were no longer taking flights for a period of time. North Korea and Iran are not real threats and China holds too much of our debt to realistically wage a war (a war would have a negative impact on both economies). Russia is the only wildcard.
Don't Read History Much, Do Ya? wrote:
jew know? wrote:War stopped Hitler from wiping out the jews.
False! Only from wiping out European Jews and there were still many Soviet Jews. There were a lot of other Jews around the world with many of them in the USA.
Papa Joe Stalin was not running a democracy. Stalin sent waves of men to their death in order to achieve victory at Stalingrad (Volgograd). Once victorious there, the outcome was not in doubt. Germany was broken. US and western nations rushed into Europe so western nations would have a say in European affairs.
If it's a just war, heck yes!!
Ciro wrote:
jew know? wrote:
War stopped Hitler from wiping out the jews.
The US didn't enter the war to save Jews.
Indeed the US turned many Jewish refugees away.
You didn't refute the statement. War DID stop Hitler from wiping out the Jews. And NOTHING else would have stopped Hitler from wiping out the Jews - and plenty of other horrible things. And throughout history, NOTHING ELSE would have stopped homicidal leaders from spreading bad things outside their borders. Gotta love the false sophistication of simplistic anti-war statements.
Stuffness wrote:
You didn't refute the statement. War DID stop Hitler from wiping out the Jews. And NOTHING else would have stopped Hitler from wiping out the Jews - and plenty of other horrible things. And throughout history, NOTHING ELSE would have stopped homicidal leaders from spreading bad things outside their borders. Gotta love the false sophistication of simplistic anti-war statements.
As was posted earlier, "False! Only from wiping out European Jews and there were still many Soviet Jews. There were a lot of other Jews around the world with many of them in the USA".
Of course. I was part of several overseas deployments in the 1990s in the Army. Anyone on this board worth a damn would gladly serve his country in war.
Stuffness wrote:
Ciro wrote:
The US didn't enter the war to save Jews.
Indeed the US turned many Jewish refugees away.
You didn't refute the statement. War DID stop Hitler from wiping out the Jews. And NOTHING else would have stopped Hitler from wiping out the Jews - and plenty of other horrible things. And throughout history, NOTHING ELSE would have stopped homicidal leaders from spreading bad things outside their borders. Gotta love the false sophistication of simplistic anti-war statements.
Up to 50 million died during WW2 fighting in Europe, civilian and military deaths. Soviets paid a heavy price. Many of front line Soviet soldiers with Oriental Asians. Millions of them died fighting Germans. Is it fair using your logic for millions of Asians to die to save an equal number of European Jews? That's not fair. If Soviet Union, 1943 to 1945 were more democratic, they would have decided, I am sure not to allow their citizens to be slaughtered.
Reading Comprehension wrote:
Stuffness wrote:
You didn't refute the statement. War DID stop Hitler from wiping out the Jews. And NOTHING else would have stopped Hitler from wiping out the Jews - and plenty of other horrible things. And throughout history, NOTHING ELSE would have stopped homicidal leaders from spreading bad things outside their borders. Gotta love the false sophistication of simplistic anti-war statements.
As was posted earlier, "False! Only from wiping out European Jews and there were still many Soviet Jews. There were a lot of other Jews around the world with many of them in the USA".
Holy crap. The point isn't that Hitler could or couldn't have killed every Jew in the world. He was trying to kill every one that he could get his hands on. Is stopping that inconsequential if there are still some left in S. American and Australia? Stupid.
True Analytics wrote:
Stuffness wrote:
You didn't refute the statement. War DID stop Hitler from wiping out the Jews. And NOTHING else would have stopped Hitler from wiping out the Jews - and plenty of other horrible things. And throughout history, NOTHING ELSE would have stopped homicidal leaders from spreading bad things outside their borders. Gotta love the false sophistication of simplistic anti-war statements.
Up to 50 million died during WW2 fighting in Europe, civilian and military deaths. Soviets paid a heavy price. Many of front line Soviet soldiers with Oriental Asians. Millions of them died fighting Germans. Is it fair using your logic for millions of Asians to die to save an equal number of European Jews? That's not fair. If Soviet Union, 1943 to 1945 were more democratic, they would have decided, I am sure not to allow their citizens to be slaughtered.
You're misstating my "logic"....which if VERY simple - at both the individual and collective level: There are bad humans beings. Sometimes, the only way to stop bad human beings from doing really bad things to other humans is to physically stop them. At the collective level, this is sometimes "war." Doesn't make all war good, of course, but war intended to stop very bad people from doing really bad things is probably not a bad thing.
Funny that one has to feel like one is teaching Logic 101 to folks who, no doubt, fancy themselves as pretty smart.