Why are vegans so aggressive about being vegan?

Carnivore 69 wrote:

I had lunch today with two guys I hadn’t met before. One guy weighed 250, the other about 220. I ordered a burger and fries, they ordered salads. They kept saying they were being “bad” by putting dressing on the salads, and talked nonstop about their diets. I’m 40-70 pounds lighter than they are, and they are the ones being finicky with food?

Perhaps they are trying to lose weight, hence the focus on their diet. Not rocket science.

Question1232 wrote:

Seems like every vegan is very aggressive ... why is that? Hormone imbalance from being denied meat?

I went to a nascar event once and saw this massively huge guy, like 6 foot 5, 300 lbs who was wearing a t shirt that read: I eat Vegans.

See also: $cientologists, Cross-C̶r̶i̶p̶p̶l̶e̶s̶Fitters, etc. It is the nature of cults.

Vegans, born again Christians, trail runners, Hoosiers, granfaloons.

It is not a vegan issue, it is an entire animal kingdom problem at the moment. B-12 deficiency is around the same percentage among vegans, vegetarians, and meat-eaters alike. We are naturally supposed to get B-12 produced from bacteria in the water we drink and from the bits of soil on the vegetables we grow. But because of modern agricultural practices that sometimes compromise the nutrients in the soil like B-12, humans and other animals end up deficient. If you are eating out and order some sort of animal product (meat, dairy,eggs, etc), you're basically guaranteed getting a B-12 supplement because the animals, especially those in factory farming, are not exposed to a healthy environment rich in essential nutrients. Many vegans and vegetarians can go years without supplementation via pills or fortified foods like almond milk, nutritional yeast, granola bars,etc because B-12 can circulate in the body for many years.

The consensus among traditional and plant-based doctors is to supplement or eat fortified food for BOTH meat-eaters and non meat-eaters. Unless you are living on an organic farm in the countryside where you are drinking stream water and growing your own food, it is likely that you could end up deficient regardless of your eating patterns.

To tie this to running, Eliud Kipchoge and many other prominent East African runners rarely eat meat. If they do, it is only for a social aspect maybe once every couple of months. Why? Because they get all the nutrients they need from a high carb, starch-based diet consisting of foods like rice, beans, ugali, collard greens, potatoes, bananas, fruit, and a whole assortment of vegetables.

af pr rhb wrote:

tips wrote:

Ur a weirdo

I think he's trying to tell us that kenyans are seasoning their soja steaks with EPO at breakfast.

This guy and his fellow warriors rarely consume anything that doesn't come directly from an animal. He and his brethren covers many miles a day herding cattle over treacherous terrain. His kin is David Rudisha.

His near-vegan neighboring tribe is notoriously small and weak. You will never see them in the Olympics.

Hey how do you know someone's a vegan? Oh don't worry, they'll tell ya. Colorfully. But it is also a disturbing double standard when SJWs complain about certain animal abuse yet they consume meat products from abused and murdered animals and are willfully ignorant about that. Lastly of note, being a vegan would deprive animals of plants needed for their food and natural habitat so the premise of veganism-animal rights is a double standard as well.

codaayyee wrote:

To tie this to running, Eliud Kipchoge and many other prominent East African runners rarely eat meat. If they do, it is only for a social aspect maybe once every couple of months. Why? Because they get all the nutrients they need from a high carb, starch-based diet consisting of foods like rice, beans, ugali, collard greens, potatoes, bananas, fruit, and a whole assortment of vegetables.

"On a training day I will have tea and bread in the morning. For lunch or dinner I like to have ugali (a starchy, energy-dense Kenyan staple) with some protein from eggs or meat. "--Eliud Kipchoge

Do plant-paste diets make people dishonest, or are dishonest people drawn to plant-paste diets?

It says he eats with eggs and meat too

electron1661 wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

ethical veganism falls apart when you explain how many insects, rodents, aardvarks, bunny rabbits, bird's nests, spiders, scorpions, roly polys, earth worms, caterpillars, lizards, snakes, turtles, armadillos and other creatures are slaughtered by clearing, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting a field of crops.

Wrong. Most of the monoculture, big fields of green in this country are grown for cows to eat. Giving up meat would illuminate this crucial part of your argument.

So what you're saying is, it's okay to murder by the trillions all these small animals that you never notice, as long as you spare a few million head of cattle?

Cattle which can be, and often are, raised on grass without hurting the ants, birds nests, ground squirrels, possums, raccoons, pikas, pheasants, baby crows, cutworms, aphids, beetle larvae, ant lions, skinks, mongeese, hedgehogs, salamanders, spiders and moth eggs, except those few unfortunate enough that the cattle step on them.

Of course you and other vegans will say that the population can't be sustained on grass-fed cattle, but that's a circular argument, because the population got this big in the first place because of agriculture. So don't point your virtuier-than-thou fingers at anyone but yourselves

Vegan act superior because they ARE ACTUALLY ethically superior to you.

Bad Wigins wrote:

electron1661 wrote:

Wrong. Most of the monoculture, big fields of green in this country are grown for cows to eat. Giving up meat would illuminate this crucial part of your argument.

Of course you and other vegans will say that the population can't be sustained on grass-fed cattle, but that's a circular argument, because the population got this big in the first place because of agriculture. So don't point your virtuier-than-thou fingers at anyone but yourselves

The point was about grass fed cattle being eaten by ALL peoples. Which would be entirely unsustainable. Do you require diagrams and a Dummies Guide to Human Eating Habits? The latter would highlight that a greater number of people on the planet DO NOT eat grass fed beef. Can I explain it in an easier fashion for you?

Bad Wigins wrote:

ethical veganism falls apart when you explain how many insects, rodents, aardvarks, bunny rabbits, bird's nests, spiders, scorpions, roly polys, earth worms, caterpillars, lizards, snakes, turtles, armadillos and other creatures are slaughtered by clearing, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting a field of crops.

Typical stupid animal eater. Suddenly you care about insects now? lol

Even if we use your own argument then less animals/ insects will be killed if you give up meat. Your death row animals needs more farms to produce their feed.

Yeah I agree that some vegans do but not all. On a footpath at a park close by there is "go vegan" writing everywhere on it ugghhhhh!

I know right!

Well they must be taller than you then.

Meat eaters say Veganism is like religion?Funny as meat eaters are the ones who regularly use their god and religion as basis to justify meat eating. From halal slaughter to excuses like oh god put them here for us to eat as bibke says bla bla bla.

Your Vegsn Lord wrote:

Meat eaters say Veganism is like religion?Funny as meat eaters are the ones who regularly use their god and religion as basis to justify meat eating. From halal slaughter to excuses like oh god put them here for us to eat as bibke says bla bla bla.

No, its not all, but a small militant few. Like other religious zealots, they assume that what's good for them is good for everybody and take that to the extreme. While it may well be that veganism is much better for one health wise, people generally should be free to make their own decisions and not be browbeaten into it.

I've not seen any vegans starting aggressive threads on here. Only you.

I think there's also a failure by some here to realize the level of sentience of the animal. "Oh, you swat mosquitoes when they're biting you, so you're not a REAL vegan." Obviously, but vegans are making a line in the sand in terms of what animals they will and won't kill, just like every single meat eater does, otherwise you would eat humans too.