My question after reading this is: "Why are people so triggered by vegans?"
For context, I am not a vegan. In fact, I'm heating up a bag of frozen orange chicken from Trader Joe's as I type this.
My question after reading this is: "Why are people so triggered by vegans?"
For context, I am not a vegan. In fact, I'm heating up a bag of frozen orange chicken from Trader Joe's as I type this.
Too many beans in their diet
steeplechump wrote:
My question after reading this is: "Why are people so triggered by vegans?"
For context, I am not a vegan. In fact, I'm heating up a bag of frozen orange chicken from Trader Joe's as I type this.
I think its the militant vegan that triggers people, and militant vegan groups like PETA. Most people just don't want to be browbeaten into doing something they don't really want to do. Basic human nature.
Question1232 wrote:
Seems like every vegan is very aggressive ... why is that? Hormone imbalance from being denied meat?
By and large, they aren't.
The ones you notice are aggressive, so you tend to assume they all are. Many of them are just quietly vegan and you have no idea.
0/10, OP.
A big, fat 0/10.
You DO NOT get credit for a no-effort troll post rehashing a topic that’s been done 10,000 times and is guaranteed to rile up the usual crew of alt-right weirdos. Do better.
Vegan 2018 wrote:
Because meat eaters allow others to kill for your food. Very cowardly way of living a life.
Most vegans don't kill their own soy either.
C'mon guys, ease off on the hate. I'm not vegan but I admire them for being willing to compromise their health for their beliefs. Kind of like priests and nuns taking a vow of celibacy.
Destry wrote:
C'mon guys, ease off on the hate. I'm not vegan but I admire them for being willing to compromise their health for their beliefs. Kind of like priests and nuns taking a vow of celibacy.
This. Ideologically, I’d love to go 100% vegan, but it’s A LOT of dedication that I admit I don’t have the energy for. I admire anyone who does what it takes for their beliefs.
Bad Wigins wrote:
ethical veganism falls apart when you explain how many insects, rodents, aardvarks, bunny rabbits, bird's nests, spiders, scorpions, roly polys, earth worms, caterpillars, lizards, snakes, turtles, armadillos and other creatures are slaughtered by clearing, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting a field of crops.
Most of those things are ugly and are okay to kill accordong to vegans.
Gravy wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
ethical veganism falls apart when you explain how many insects, rodents, aardvarks, bunny rabbits, bird's nests, spiders, scorpions, roly polys, earth worms, caterpillars, lizards, snakes, turtles, armadillos and other creatures are slaughtered by clearing, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting a field of crops.
Most of those things are ugly and are okay to kill accordong to vegans.
Link to any vegans saying that's okay. It might take awhile as you navigate through all the links of vegans supporting organic fertilizer and opposing the use of pesticides. Go ahead though, we'll wait.
My favourite thing about reading this thread is that it’s catergorically proven that the healthiest nations don’t eat much meat or none at all. It’s proven that diary and meat eating have direct links to an array of cancers. Processed meat being the number one culprit. Yet, the meat-eaters still rant about the health of vegans. Vegans will be healthier every single time....
Veganology wrote:
You are painfully stupid. Most vegans aren't doing it for nutrition/health reasons, they do it because they are considerate of others and the sustainability of the planet.
Why do some vegans get aggressive? Because we have to tolerate occupying the planet with the selfish f***s who care less for others than they do their next meal.
This.
Nonosoj wrote:
0/10, OP.
A big, fat 0/10.
You DO NOT get credit for a no-effort troll post rehashing a topic that’s been done 10,000 times and is guaranteed to rile up the usual crew of alt-right weirdos. Do better.
OP gets 10/10 from me because "a no-effort troll post rehashing a topic that’s been done 10,000 times" has got to three pages, including a long post from S. Canaday and a post from a riled-up you, FMD even some of it in upper case bold and italics, I mean, you've gotta be riled up to go to those lengths.
Well done OP.
Hhaha wrote:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZE250vHIH9c/TMe3dnZTrLI/AAAAAAAAAJU/yMV_AVRxEDE/s1600/masai-warrior.jpg"No meat? HAHAHAHAHAHAH"
Ur a weirdo
Do you only eat inorganic matter? Do you know that there's evidence that non-meat living things feel pain? I didn't realize some vegans think that plants weren't living things that couldn't be killed - highly discriminatory don't you think?
Vegan 2018 wrote:
Because meat eaters allow others to kill for your food. Very cowardly way of living a life.
Bad Wigins wrote:
ethical veganism falls apart when you explain how many insects, rodents, aardvarks, bunny rabbits, bird's nests, spiders, scorpions, roly polys, earth worms, caterpillars, lizards, snakes, turtles, armadillos and other creatures are slaughtered by clearing, plowing, planting, spraying, and harvesting a field of crops.
Wrong. Most of the monoculture, big fields of green in this country are grown for cows to eat. Giving up meat would illuminate this crucial part of your argument.
This this this wrote:
Question1232 wrote:
Seems like every vegan is very aggressive ... why is that? Hormone imbalance from being denied meat?
This is typical misdirection. Vegans just get on with being vegans. Insecure carnivores feel the need to constantly attack vegans on account of the 5lb of undigested red meat in their colons.
It’s hilarious to watch.
This. Amen.
S. Canaday wrote:
Diet has historically been closely tied to religion, cultures, family traditions and even "favorite foods" as a child.
Hence why people are so passionate when talking about it.
I was born and raised vegetarian and thought the vegan diet was "extreme." I've been about 99% vegan for the last 3-4 years.
Sometimes I try fondue in France and eat a nice baked good that has eggs in it. Sometimes I probably accidentally eat some bugs that have been killed in my salad/fruit. I eat honey. I'm not going to be a stickler about it. The healthy diet ideal is "whole foods plant based" because then you are talking about whole grains like rice/oats as well as the focus on veggies, fruits and legumes/nuts. Obviously one is not going to be healthy eating vegan donuts and vegan Ben and Jerry's ice cream all the time. We've found saying "plant based diet" is less offensive to some than saying "vegan"...which tends to trigger people.
The whole Environmental angle is a big one. Simple math and science shows that being on a plant-based diet is going to be far more efficient (generally) and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. With projected overpopulation growth there is no way most people in the world could even approach to eat as much beef, dairy, seafood, pork as the average American does. Not even in the US can everyone eat "' healthy' grass fed beef"....it is simply not scalable or sustainable. Without government subsidies the true price of meat/dairy would increase drastically. And of course most grain in the US is used to feed livestock....not people.
Now I personally pollute a ton....I've gone on half a dozen international plane flights this year, I drive a gasoline powered SUV and I take 10-min hot water showers a lot of the times. There are much better Environmentalists out there that i greatly respect....but diet is a huge component of that. Usually more so than even all the transportation choices one makes.
With vegans you have a fairly outspoken minority. And thanks to social media that minority is growing into a pretty substantial market....there is a reflection of that in products you see at the store and labels on restaurant menus. Being vegan (or more importantly "plant-based") will continue to grow worldwide as people recognize the health benefits and environmental benefits heading into the future. At this day in age there is no reason a person can't thrive on a vegan diet..
As for B12? Iron? Yeah, I think all Runners (regardless of diet) should monitor their B12, Iron and Vitamin D levels (to name a few). Some of the most iron deficient runners that I've ever trained with were guys that ate red meat 3 times a week.
Bump. Sage, I couldn’t agree more. You sound like someone who studied ENVS in school. Did you?
tips wrote:
Hhaha wrote:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZE250vHIH9c/TMe3dnZTrLI/AAAAAAAAAJU/yMV_AVRxEDE/s1600/masai-warrior.jpg"No meat? HAHAHAHAHAHAH"
Ur a weirdo
I think he's trying to tell us that kenyans are seasoning their soja steaks with EPO at breakfast.
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