Cross Country Season- If you don’t run twice a day you aren’t trying

I better tell Yuki Kawuachi that he isn't even trying.

Once a day runner wrote:

I better tell Yuki Kawuachi that he isn't even trying.

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ahfjfjfb wrote:

Once a day runner wrote:

I better tell Yuki Kawuachi that he isn't even trying.

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Yuki runs 93 miles a week because he has a full time job. 99.9% of high school and collegiates aren’t running 93 in singles. Read some interviews with him. He talks about only running singles and he’s aware of his mileage shortcomings compared to others as well as being considered soft because of it. Maybe he would be better if he ran more?

Change my mind.

Change.My.Mind wrote:

High Schoolers and Collegiates-It’s cross country season. If you aren’t running twice a day you aren’t trying hard enough.

Change my mind.

^^^^

I agree!

Change.My.Mind wrote:

ahfjfjfb wrote:

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Yuki runs 93 miles a week because he has a full time job. 99.9% of high school and collegiates aren’t running 93 in singles. Read some interviews with him. He talks about only running singles and he’s aware of his mileage shortcomings compared to others as well as being considered soft because of it. Maybe he would be better if he ran more?

Change my mind.

93 miles/150 kilometers a week in singles:

Sun 30 kilometers

Mon-Sat 20 kilometers once a day

In my opinion one should not add doubles until they run 70-90 miles a week in singles for a year. Than add another 5-6 miles on top of the 70-90 miles a week equals 100-120 miles a week.

Change.My.Mind wrote:

High Schoolers and Collegiates-It’s cross country season. If you aren’t running twice a day you aren’t trying hard enough.

Change my mind.

anyone who spends that much time running and doesn't already have the race times to suggest a professional career in running is just taking away from time preparing for the rest of their life.

Hayduke wrote:

Change.My.Mind wrote:

High Schoolers and Collegiates-It’s cross country season. If you aren’t running twice a day you aren’t trying hard enough.

Change my mind.

anyone who spends that much time running and doesn't already have the race times to suggest a professional career in running is just taking away from time preparing for the rest of their life.

Running 30 minutes in the morning and an hour in the afternoon isn’t taking away from anything. The only way to find out if you can improve is to train.

Just because you won’t be world champion doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try. Most people won’t be geniuses so why should they study at all?

That attitude won’t get you very far.

This might be something foreign on here but not everyone gets better from doing more, some end up injured.

Change.My.Mind wrote:

High Schoolers and Collegiates-It’s cross country season. If you aren’t running twice a day you aren’t trying hard enough.

Change my mind.

I can`t probably change your mind..... but maybe change some others. My coaching has brought

in evidence a runner can reach optimal performance on just singles. Kawauchi and a couple of other historical runners have also been strengthened this .

Change.My.Mind wrote:

ahfjfjfb wrote:

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Yuki runs 93 miles a week because he has a full time job. 99.9% of high school and collegiates aren’t running 93 in singles. Read some interviews with him. He talks about only running singles and he’s aware of his mileage shortcomings compared to others as well as being considered soft because of it. Maybe he would be better if he ran more?

Change my mind.

It looks like Kawauchi will make a try to run fulltime from April next year. He told in interview he will use the prizemoney from Boston to train fulltime and doing doubles. Will be interesting to see the outcome. I doubt he will run much faster than his 2.08.14 . Why ? Because I think he has reached his aerobic optimal limit. What he can do now to run faster is to make his quality workouts in a different way and don`t race that much he does.

You want people to do doubles every day?

It's possible.

The key is to not burn out.

Twice a day for a high schooler is a little much. Maybe a stud senior but that’s it.

Fjfnss wrote:

Twice a day for a high schooler is a little much. Maybe a stud senior but that’s it.

No it is not too much. It is perfectly fine for almost any high schooler that wants to improve.

Marcus Siepen wrote:

Fjfnss wrote:

Twice a day for a high schooler is a little much. Maybe a stud senior but that’s it.

No it is not too much. It is perfectly fine for almost any high schooler that wants to improve.

Quote:

Patrick: Although I’d heard about the Kenyan runners as a child, I never thought then that one day I’d be a world class runner. I didn’t run much as a child. My parents were farmers and I grew up in Manyanzaani Tala, 40 kilometers from Nairobi. That’s where I live to this day. The first school I went to was close by but then that changed when I went to a different school. I was ten and for the next three years the route to school was eight kilometers. Since I went home for lunch, I was running 32 kilometers daily.

Two a days come at a cost of less sleep for most high school runners. Most high school runners would benefit more from the extra sleep than a second run.

Your welcome.

Marcus Siepen wrote:

Fjfnss wrote:

Twice a day for a high schooler is a little much. Maybe a stud senior but that’s it.

No it is not too much. It is perfectly fine for almost any high schooler that wants to improve.

So new runners in their first year it's perfectly fine? So oft injured runners it's perfectly fine for? So runners previously running 30 mpw it's perfectly fine for?

Lots of irrational injury fear here. Does your body magically hit reset every 24 hours? Is 12 hours not enough rest between runs?

You’re more likely to get hurt doing frequent hard interval sessions during the week. An easy 30 min wake up loop won’t ruin you. Go to bed earlier if sleep is an issue.

If injuries are a problem just run every other day and take a nap in the afternoon instead of practice.

Change.My.Mind wrote:

ahfjfjfb wrote:

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Yuki runs 93 miles a week because he has a full time job. 99.9% of high school and collegiates aren’t running 93 in singles. Read some interviews with him. He talks about only running singles and he’s aware of his mileage shortcomings compared to others as well as being considered soft because of it. Maybe he would be better if he ran more?

Change my mind.

Bernard Lagat

Coach Better wrote:

Marcus Siepen wrote:

No it is not too much. It is perfectly fine for almost any high schooler that wants to improve.

So new runners in their first year it's perfectly fine? So oft injured runners it's perfectly fine for? So runners previously running 30 mpw it's perfectly fine for?

As long as it is done in a smart progressive fashion, then yes it is fine. In fact I believe that it would help prevent injuries.