El Keniano wrote:
Stop directing questions at me, then. 'Do you', as they say. Cheers ??
It's a sure bett that these recent Kenyan doping busts have made you grouchy.
El Keniano wrote:
Stop directing questions at me, then. 'Do you', as they say. Cheers ??
It's a sure bett that these recent Kenyan doping busts have made you grouchy.
rekrunner wrote:
I'm not sure why I should ever be afraid to show myself here.
Widespread busts will only lead me to say the faith in doping is far and wide and even goes to the top, and to repeat that you cannot prove much more than that with these examples.
I did make an offer once though to not participate in threads that didn't call me out by name, and put wrong words in my mouth.
You can all thank "casual obsever" for inviting me into this thread.
Do you honestly believe that with all PEDs? That's starting to sound like Jon Orange's platform.
Widespread busts in just one country vs absolutely none in the parts of the world where the people running the organisation, making 100% of those responsible for the policies and targeting, proves the entire system is nothing but a sham.
HA! “Integrity”. What a joke. Anyone that doesn’t admit there’s a credibility issue here is being willfuy blind. I wouldn’t trust the AIU as far as I could throw them.
El Keniano wrote:
Widespread busts in just one country vs absolutely none in the parts of the world where the people running the organisation, making 100% of those responsible for the policies and targeting, proves the entire system is nothing but a sham.
HA! “Integrity”. What a joke. Anyone that doesn’t admit there’s a credibility issue here is being willfuy blind. I wouldn’t trust the AIU as far as I could throw them.
This is the logical conclusion that everybody here should accept if you allow SJW loons like vivalarepublica and black genocidal nutjobs like this fellow to scream racist at anyone like me focusing on Kenya as a doping epicenter.
If what I was saying for over a year was racist, then the current exposure of so many Kenyan drug cheats is likely a white conspiracy, led by arch colonialist Sebastian Coe.
A lot of you guys, including the Brojos, have created the monster that is El K and his followers.
Of course, the truth is that El K is a black power extremist, although rather an exclusive Kenyan racist as he makes his hatred of West Africans and even Ethiopians here well known.
El K - why can't you accept that (finally, and thanks to Seb Coe), that ever more rigorous standards are being rapidly forced on Kenya (still not nearly up to Western standards)? How can anyone say this is all a white conspiracy against Kenya when Kiprop himself posted screenshots of his Kenyan testers giving him notification and asking for money etc? Even if Kiprop was innocent, the fact that his testers would sabotage his specimens because he didn't pay them enough tea money shows how corrupt the system is there, does it not?
What message are you giving to young Kenyan athletes? It's o.k. to dope, because everybody does, but make sure you have tea money because evil whitey will let their own off but not you!
casual obsever wrote:
Well, Tim would be less exciting than Keitany or Rudisha or Kipsang or Kipchoge.
Frankly I hope for someone really really big, so things may finally change.
Mind you we might be getting too carried away given frequency of the fails of late, but personally I love the fails that make our Italian friend (beginning with 'R') squirm and trying singularize that fail as it is divorced from reality, remember elites don't take or need drugs, ha. ?
Subway Surfers wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Well, Tim would be less exciting than Keitany or Rudisha or Kipsang or Kipchoge.
Frankly I hope for someone really really big, so things may finally change.
Mind you we might be getting too carried away given frequency of the fails of late, but personally I love the fails that make our Italian friend (beginning with 'R') squirm and trying singularize that fail as it is divorced from reality, remember elites don't take or need drugs, ha. ?
The thing about Tim is that he's one of three Kenyans all under the same coach who are dominating the 1500m. If either him or the Manangoi brothers go down, then probably the other two will as well.
Can you imagine what the 1500m would look like without Tim or the Manangois?
Ingebrigtsens will dominate:)
Coevett wrote:
The thing about Tim is that he's one of three Kenyans all under the same coach who are dominating the 1500m. If either him or the Manangoi brothers go down, then probably the other two will as well.
Can you imagine what the 1500m would look like without Tim or the Manangois?
I might be wrong but the potato man and the Manangois aren't going to fail anytime soon. You see Kenya isn't really serious about cracking down on doping, my gosh their economy would collapse. The government needs the foreign exchange and the jobs. Kiprop was a sacrificial lamb to make out they were credible, the suspicious bribes might be a set up where he was tested, he hits up the next day and boom they turn up a couple of days later to catch him glowing. Notice none of the stars are being caught locally (though I could be wrong here), was Jepchumba an in competition fail? Bett simply refused, Jebet, didn't WADA catch her? The rest weren't that big. Any how anti-doping Kenya is sending their blood samples to Bloemfontein, which isn't even accredited. Then there's runners like Kwemoi with a 53 Hct if he was a TdF cyclist back in the mid 90s he would've been banned. Do you really think that a population can pump out that many new sub 2:08 marathoners each year legitimately, even with the help of altitude?
Subway Surfers wrote:
Do you really think that a population can pump out that many new sub 2:08 marathoners each year legitimately, even with the help of altitude?
I do. Culture+genetics+diet+altitude+motivation+group training
I wonder Subway if it's Chepkoech, considering she destroyed Jebet's WR by 8 seconds! And since now learn Jebet is a doper, breaking her WR by that wide of a margin is very suspicious. Just a guess. ?
Coevett wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Mind you we might be getting too carried away given frequency of the fails of late, but personally I love the fails that make our Italian friend (beginning with 'R') squirm and trying singularize that fail as it is divorced from reality, remember elites don't take or need drugs, ha. ?
The thing about Tim is that he's one of three Kenyans all under the same coach who are dominating the 1500m. If either him or the Manangoi brothers go down, then probably the other two will as well.
Can you imagine what the 1500m would look like without Tim or the Manangois?
If that were to happen, it would be a sure bett that Kenyan Athletics would be in dire straights.
Coevett wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Widespread busts in just one country vs absolutely none in the parts of the world where the people running the organisation, making 100% of those responsible for the policies and targeting, proves the entire system is nothing but a sham.
HA! “Integrity”. What a joke. Anyone that doesn’t admit there’s a credibility issue here is being willfuy blind. I wouldn’t trust the AIU as far as I could throw them.
This is the logical conclusion that everybody here should accept if you allow SJW loons like vivalarepublica and black genocidal nutjobs like this fellow to scream racist at anyone like me focusing on Kenya as a doping epicenter.
If what I was saying for over a year was racist, then the current exposure of so many Kenyan drug cheats is likely a white conspiracy, led by arch colonialist Sebastian Coe.
A lot of you guys, including the Brojos, have created the monster that is El K and his followers.
Of course, the truth is that El K is a black power extremist, although rather an exclusive Kenyan racist as he makes his hatred of West Africans and even Ethiopians here well known.
El K - why can't you accept that (finally, and thanks to Seb Coe), that ever more rigorous standards are being rapidly forced on Kenya (still not nearly up to Western standards)? How can anyone say this is all a white conspiracy against Kenya when Kiprop himself posted screenshots of his Kenyan testers giving him notification and asking for money etc? Even if Kiprop was innocent, the fact that his testers would sabotage his specimens because he didn't pay them enough tea money shows how corrupt the system is there, does it not?
What message are you giving to young Kenyan athletes? It's o.k. to dope, because everybody does, but make sure you have tea money because evil whitey will let their own off but not you!
I really want to know how, in your eyes, I went from an obese, pasty ginger living above a curry shop in Chelmsford, to black panther militant.
Fishing Expedition wrote:
Coevett wrote:
The thing about Tim is that he's one of three Kenyans all under the same coach who are dominating the 1500m. If either him or the Manangoi brothers go down, then probably the other two will as well.
Can you imagine what the 1500m would look like without Tim or the Manangois?
If that were to happen, it would be a sure bett that Kenyan Athletics would be in dire straights.
Hahahaha! ? ? ? You're a riot!
El Keniano wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
I am convinced that you are just trolling now.
Oh, I wish I was. How would this board react if the AIU was entirely composed of Africans, or better still, Russian speakers? Yep. That's exactly how I/we see it. Look, the view that the success of East Africans, and particularly Kenyans, has been bad for the sport is very widespread not just on this board, but among a majority of western athletes and your most respected journalists, many who don't even pretend anymore on Twitter. Again, I'm convinced the AIU, in it's current form, shares these biases and is probably concentrating all its resources on Kenya. I'd welcome proof to the contrary but there won't be any because I'm right.
I like a lot of your posts because they display a healthy sense of humor and different perspective. But I'll be honest, you take a paranoid stance towards the white managers, agents, administrators, etc. in athletics that doesn't make you any better than the other yahoos that post about this subject. A difficulty in disproving something is not the same as an ability to prove something. To believe in this conspiracy is about on equal level as those that simply believe all Kenyan performances should be tossed aside on suspicion of doping. Please try to keep it real.
Anyways, most of the people that continually post in these threads appear to be nuts. And a wise man once told me that you don't interact with crazy. So enjoy circle jerking with each other.
yes el k has a serious problem with his hatred on white people. i still dont think he is black kenyan as his chose of words doesnt match up. i have met a number of kenyans and east africans and they talk waaaay different than el k does. this is why i speculate he is a SJW left leaning white guilt to the max individual. my take is he is british since he has all sorts of mockery insults with things very very british. like names of small towns only some tool a$$ brit would know about, or places in london where you actually would pay $32 for tea. like how would some guy in kenya know these things?
anyways if i was to make a bett, it would only be $32 worth, and its one male and one female
so here is my $32 bett
TIMOTHY "POTATO PLANTING" CHERUIYOT
and
BEATRICE "SMASHING EPO WRS" CHEPKOECH
in the mean time we have to wait, some how mr el k who claims he is in the up and up of kenyan running scene, keeps acting surprised about the busts. i mean sh*t he acts like he has $32 tea with these guys on the regular, hell makes it out to be like he went out with his trusty muck boots and helped ol tim plant potatoes.
so again el k and renato....WHO ARE THE NEXT TWO NAMES? why is it some lame wait? are they giving you and rosa time to do damage control? trying to come up with some spiked toothpaste rouge masseuse androgel rub down with a happy ending too much tainted beef excuse? why the wait? just come out with it already
like i keep asking, why wont "mr know it all" el k tell us who it is?
and maybe just maybe you can start coming clean el k....im from colorado USA, a small mt town, where are you from?
iten? or is it West Brompton and your neighbor is calculo/vent?
^ Thanks for the laugh ? ? ?. Seriously.
Oh, and a present that will hopefully cheer you and Coevett up ...
https://twitter.com/RunEmilyERun/status/1028279956625874944
https://twitter.com/dennisokeyo/status/1028299817016020992
Have a nice day ??
Will he be loaded with Rosa-juice and be given a fake birth certificate like the others brothers?
Seriously, el K.......... How can you be happy celebrating victories that are so hollow and fraudulent? As a Kenyan you SHOULD want the sport to be cleaned up so legitimate Kenyan athletes can shine, but instead you spend your time defending confirmed and obvious drug/age cheats. Weaksauce, my dude. Weaksauce.
lolz you mock and insult, spew what coevett thinks is racism, then act like you dont do any of it
your not racist i know that....but you hate whites....so if you were black then you are being racist...but you arnt black, you are pretending to be black to cover for your white guilt.
i would say its a strange phenomenon, but i mean if men can "identify" as a women, and Rachel Dolezal can pretend to be a black women, and Shaun King can pretend to be a black man and leader of the BLM movement, then it isnt that "abnormal" for a british guy to pretend online that he is in fact a kenyan, who is boarder line stalker fan of the top tier runners.
again where do you live in kenya? how is it you know so much about planting potatoes with your boy tim? what stables do you stalk? do you run? or are you just a vent/calculo armchair fan? i mean im super curious. you mock us all and spout racist/white guilt things, proclaim how smart and connected in the big training groups of kenya...but maintain this annoying anonymous charade.
why not give us a bit of back ground, maybe just maybe if you can show some proof then maybe we can take your word for it and have a bit more faith in your word. but as for now i believe your a kenyan about as much as rekrunner believes EPO works...lolz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guiltEl Keniano wrote:
?
https://twitter.com/jufreeze/status/1017830765684580352
like for real man its pretty obvious
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