ex-runner wrote:
Tread miler wrote:
So if treadmill miles do count why are they easier than regular workouts? Do I just suck at pacing or do I need to increase speed like .5 mph or something?
Lots of treadmills are calibrated poorly. Also many users don't put any incline on the belt which means you are running without wind resistance.
Inclines do add extra stress on your Achilles, but they certainly don't add wind resistance.
hahahahaha, funniest thing i've read on here since 2005. Too bad Mythbusters got involved......could have reignited that thread. oh man. good times.
ex-runner wrote:
Tread miler wrote:
So if treadmill miles do count why are they easier than regular workouts? Do I just suck at pacing or do I need to increase speed like .5 mph or something?
Lots of treadmills are calibrated poorly. Also many users don't put any incline on the belt which means you are running without wind resistance.
The ingebrigtsens are running on zero percent incline, just increase your pace
dddwdqwdwq wrote:
Care to explain what their training runs are like? Please and thanks =)
6,26 per mile
Sledge_hammer wrote:
The Ingrebrigtsens wrote:
Prove that treadmill miles do count
The fact that they have treadmills at home doesn't mean they use it for real running.
Maybe they're sponsored, maybe they just bought them for fun.
And there's no running on a treadmill, by "running" on a treadmillyou're just being dragged along the belt.
They use it for real running. Both runs and intervals. Even on training camps.
freelo wrote:
Don't think they have much else of a choice in Norway Winter or do they spend the entire winter in warmer places?
They often go to South Africa in winter, and the treadmills, and the winter in south west Norway is a lot like England, but anyways, many norwegians run in the snow, only when there is a blizzard it becomes a bit akward or if it is sleet, and minus 28 may give you asthma (yes it does happen, and not only to xc skiers, and asthmamedication works as f. but only for the guys with asthma), I think Filip has asthma by the way not his brothers, so, well, they can run as hell all the time, but choose to choose south Africa and treadmills a lot.
Gravy wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Lots of treadmills are calibrated poorly. Also many users don't put any incline on the belt which means you are running without wind resistance.
Inclines do add extra stress on your Achilles, but they certainly don't add wind resistance.
Simulated resistance.
TresholdFTW wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Lots of treadmills are calibrated poorly. Also many users don't put any incline on the belt which means you are running without wind resistance.
The ingebrigtsens are running on zero percent incline, just increase your pace
How do you know, out of interest?
I replied to the other poster who felt his pace was too easy on the treadmill. 1% makes all the difference, try it.
Changing the pace you are running at just makes things confusing. Adding an incline keeps the speed/distance/time the same as outdoors.
ex-runner wrote:
TresholdFTW wrote:
The ingebrigtsens are running on zero percent incline, just increase your pace
How do you know, out of interest?
I replied to the other poster who felt his pace was too easy on the treadmill. 1% makes all the difference, try it.
Changing the pace you are running at just makes things confusing. Adding an incline keeps the speed/distance/time the same as outdoors.
They are not at all secretive about their training. Except for what they do during the summer, thats the secret part.
Agree regarding the 1%. I assume the ingebrigtsens just run a bit faster when they keep it at 0%. Don't know the reason, perhaps to train their muscles to be more efficient at higher paces?
SprintTriathlon wrote:
freelo wrote:
Don't think they have much else of a choice in Norway Winter or do they spend the entire winter in warmer places?
They often go to South Africa in winter, and the treadmills, and the winter in south west Norway is a lot like England, but anyways, many norwegians run in the snow, only when there is a blizzard it becomes a bit akward or if it is sleet, and minus 28 may give you asthma (yes it does happen, and not only to xc skiers, and asthmamedication works as f. but only for the guys with asthma), I think Filip has asthma by the way not his brothers, so, well, they can run as hell all the time, but choose to choose south Africa and treadmills a lot.
Why would they use the dreadmill that often, even when the weather is not terrible? Is it really that effective? I have heard it messes up with your stride, because it simply pulls you along the belt but that clearly does not seem to be the case for the Ingrebrigtsens.
ScriptedConnection wrote:
Why would they use the dreadmill that often, even when the weather is not terrible? Is it really that effective? I have heard it messes up with your stride, because it simply pulls you along the belt but that clearly does not seem to be the case for the Ingrebrigtsens.
Thats nonsense. It does not mess up your stride and the dragging along by the belt part is just something you should ignore when people comment it.
I don't know for sure why they always like treadmill, but heres some reasons they might:
They like to control their training, by using a treadmill they can run intervals at a certain pace without going too fast and too slow, also when you're used to it its kinda easier mentally. You're just zoning out and letting your legs do the work.
Regarding stride...it only messes with your stride if you do your track workouts there, which very few does.
Marius Bakken (13:06) stated he got a more efficient stride after he started doing treadmill workouts.
Hardloper wrote:
ThresholdFTW wrote:
Yes there is, at least a scary many number of comments saying this. Check it out next time.
Links?
It's common, but they can't seem to find any links. Interesting.
How much extra, valuable no-impact training could you do every winter on xc skis while training full-time as a runner? A teammate of mine in college continued to do roller skiing and xc skiing in the fall and winters, running outside the team most of xc, but was all-American and ran 3:56/8:56 steeple (all-American, might have won) in D3. Wouldn't the extra training be a major aerobic advantage?
I had no luck transferring the 1% tmill tempos this year to the roads, nowhere close. I was doing low 26 5M at 1% and then only got in a couple of half marathons, both with some sickness and super slow, 1:20.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
How much extra, valuable no-impact training could you do every winter on xc skis while training full-time as a runner? A teammate of mine in college continued to do roller skiing and xc skiing in the fall and winters, running outside the team most of xc, but was all-American and ran 3:56/8:56 steeple (all-American, might have won) in D3. Wouldn't the extra training be a major aerobic advantage?
Was Ben True your teammate?
Sand Dunes wrote:
zxcvzxcv wrote:
How much extra, valuable no-impact training could you do every winter on xc skis while training full-time as a runner? A teammate of mine in college continued to do roller skiing and xc skiing in the fall and winters, running outside the team most of xc, but was all-American and ran 3:56/8:56 steeple (all-American, might have won) in D3. Wouldn't the extra training be a major aerobic advantage?
Was Ben True your teammate?
Did Ben True run D3? No.
Sand Dunes wrote:
zxcvzxcv wrote:
How much extra, valuable no-impact training could you do every winter on xc skis while training full-time as a runner? A teammate of mine in college continued to do roller skiing and xc skiing in the fall and winters, running outside the team most of xc, but was all-American and ran 3:56/8:56 steeple (all-American, might have won) in D3. Wouldn't the extra training be a major aerobic advantage?
Was Ben True your teammate?
Ask a thriathle, some of them do insane amounts of training.