Political correctness (PC) is killing comedy

White old person wrote:

Yeah, why can't I use the word nigg*r in a punchline!

Great question, why can't you?

casual THURSDAY Hawaiian shirt guy wrote:

celery wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQoQKnE6Yhs

Funny comedians are still out there. They've just been kicked off twitter.

That's you're A-lister? looks like the 3rd place finisher at the local talent show

Maybe he's not an A-lister because he wasn't willing to blow Kevin Spacey.

I'm just saying...do you know how Hollywood works?

celery wrote:

White old person wrote:

Yeah, why can't I use the word nigg*r in a punchline!

Great question, why can't you?

Lol

We've seen from recent events that every interest group, absolutely including conservatives, objects to being poked fun of.

ex-runner wrote:

celery wrote:

Great question, why can't you?

Lol

No seriously, why can't you? If the N-word escapes the lips of a white person, is it like saying the V-word. You know the V-word, right? Oh you don't know what I'm talking about.

(whispering) "voldemort"

Shhhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone I said his name. He'll be here soon.

Seriously though, is saying the N-word like saying Voldemort? Do we really live in a grade school fantasy?

I walked down the block the other day with my kids to buy some lemonade from a stand that the neighbor kids were selling. There we were, just my family and I buying lemonade like something out of a norman Rockwell painting. And a guy drove by blasting some Tupac. In the 20 seconds it took to pass, we heard the N-word 5 times. And guess what, the world didn't explode. No one even noticed. No one cared. Amazing right?

Honestly words have their meaning based on context. A person of any race saying nigg*r in the context of a joke, is totally different than someone saying it with the intent to insult another person. Anyone who pretends context is not everything, is purposely lying to themselves.

Its time to kill PC folks. Seriously, its time to kill it. Lets all stop the society wide hallucination.

(btw, the only reason I don't type out the full "N-word" is so the moderators don't delete the post. It's just a word you babies. Grow up.)

celery wrote:

Honestly words have their meaning based on context. A person of any race saying nigg*r in the context of a joke, is totally different than someone saying it with the intent to insult another person. Anyone who pretends context is not everything, is purposely lying to themselves.

Agreed. However, why does anyone need to be able to say it and what's lost by condemning its use?

Not my reel name wrote:

Was watching animal house last night on HBO and it hit me that the movie itself could probably not be made today. It would trigger too many libs and calls for boycotting in a Democratic Society would contradict itself once again.

Same goes for Blazing Saddles, Airplane! and even The Jerk. All American Classics that could not be made today all thanks to the PC crowd.

liberal/conservative arguments aren't relevant. it's not a "PC" issue.

People are finally understanding stuff that you call "PC" is actually racist that was always ignored. It was/is only funny to a single group of people. The good news of the PC trend is that entire generations are realizing that you can't just say whatever you want. Racism that for years has been subconscious or learned from childhood is now being called out. People like you will hopefully die off.

Blazing Saddles was racist. If you can't recognize that then you probably never will.

that's why you are the moran here, my white friend. the USA is going to be the first major country founded as a white culture where whites become a minority.

strykerd wrote:

celery wrote:

Honestly words have their meaning based on context. A person of any race saying nigg*r in the context of a joke, is totally different than someone saying it with the intent to insult another person. Anyone who pretends context is not everything, is purposely lying to themselves.

Agreed. However, why does anyone need to be able to say it and what's lost by condemning its use?

You're asking the wrong question. Why does anyone need to NOT be able to say it?

Turn it into any other word and ask the same question. "why does anyone need to be able to say cancer? Cancer kills millions of people a year. It is a horrible word. Why can't people just say C-word instead?"

Do you see how ridiculous it is to ask why people need to be allowed to speak?

Condemning it's use regardless of context, gives power to the listener to always veto what the speaker says, and then to shut down the speaker. If the listener can purposely ignore the intent/context of the speaker, and claim to be injured by a word, then censorship begins it's relentless march. Control words, an you control people's minds. And if you let it happen with nigg*r, I grantee, other words will be next on the chopping block.

You just called people "subconsciously "racist. How do you know they are racist if it's only in their subconscious? If they aren't even aware of it, how the hell are you so smart that you know it's there? How are you become the "thought crime" detective. Where do you get your magical powers?

Also, you just wished for these falsely accused racists to "die off." But right, you're the good guy.

You claim only whites thought blazing saddles was funny. So you can say with certainty that no black person ever laughed at blazing saddles. Do you know this because you know all black people are the same. Now whose got subconscious racism?

Also, you say America will become minority white. So what? Are whites supposed to be scared that the POC will start discriminating against them all in the name of NOT being racist? Seriously, what's your point?

I don’t agree with your dichotomous proposal of one question being right and the other wrong - they are both valid questions.

Your analysis to saying “cancer” is a poor one. People didn’t ever use that word to help segregate and subjugate a group of people.

What is lost by condemning the word’s use?

No, it is not a word to be used by non-blacks. It is a word of hate that relates to Jim Crow laws and lynchings. Have you seen the picture of Emmit Till? I'm sure the people who murdered him called him that before they killed him.

That some blacks use the word doesn't change anything.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

No, it is not a word to be used by non-blacks. It is a word of hate that relates to Jim Crow laws and lynchings. Have you seen the picture of Emmit Till? I'm sure the people who murdered him called him that before they killed him.

That some blacks use the word doesn't change anything.

Good grief. I think some of you maniacs think calling someone a name is on the same level as murder. Get real.

why are you so angry? who are you angry at? live your little life and and who cares what i say. Teach your kids to drop the N-word in school and public. See how that pans out for them. It's a terrible strategy and you haven't thought it through.

if someone is surrounded by racist talk most of their lives then it becomes their normal without even thinking about it. Most people raised on a religion from an incredibly early age.

If they don't understand that what they are hearing and saying is racist, it's subconscious. It's inherent. Whatever word you want to use, I know you understand what I'm saying. Semantics aside. Not a difficult concept to understand.

I never said no black person didn't think blazing saddles was funny. I never said anything ABSOLUTELY at all and you know it. Go reread what I said. What are you saying? If you are saying Blazing Saddles wasn't racist, then just proclaim it instead of avoiding the thing I actually wrote.

Yes, I hope generations of homophobics, sexists, and racists die off and acceptance becomes the normal. It's already happening with young kids today. Is that a bad thing, bruh?

I think whites will NOT tolerate racism against them. They'll hate people being racist against them. They've never had to deal with it. They are the most susceptible to being angered by it. See how upset whites get about such a straightforward concept as black lives matter?

why are you so angry?

You replied to the other person's comment about blazing saddles (among other movies) and said " It was/is only funny to a single group of people." Sorry to break this to you, but that is an ABSOLUTE statement.

The main tactic of your last reply to me was to pretend I'm angry. There you go trying to project things onto other people, and then condemn them for it. Can you see how you invent an offense that you apply to others, so you can then claim moral superiority over them? Do you see how you are the one motivated by prejudice? Do you see how you are the epitome of everything you pretend to hate?

I'm simply trying to point our the "mind-reading" fallacy of those who think PC culture is a good thing. I know you won't be able to hear my arguments, and change your mind. You are a lost cause. I'm only replying to you so that anyone else reading our conversation will understand the PC deception, and not be tricked by it.

Are you some kind of moron?

The word has a history rooted in the oppression of black people and slavery. It's not just any other word like cancer.

The sole purpose of its creation was to reinforce the idea that blacks are subhuman. An idea that maybe resonates with a few here, I might add.

Someone wrote asking that I ban celery. I'm fine with him discussing why comedians can or can't say the nword. That is a valid discussion.

I understand what you are trying to say celery and I agree in general PC culture goes way too far. But you are missing one point. People and comedians are free to say the nword, however, it is highly offensive and one must suffer the consequences of saying it, so generally they don't say it. They've decided it's not worth it. You may believe it is or wish that it wasn't ok for one group of society to use a word while another group can't, but that is the reality.

You may wish even when discussing the word we said it instead of spelling it out but generally we don't as it is that toxic a word right now when used by certain groups.

I agree with celery's point here however. In a race neutral society that I strive for, it shouldn't matter who the majority is. What is the point unless round and round is celebrating the demise of a race as a majority which is racist.

People never used a word to subjugate people. They used violence, backed up by laws, to subjugate them. The last remnant of those laws were gotten rid of 50 years ago. People have lived nearly full lives since those laws were around.

As for condemning a word. We need to define "condemn." If you mean that one shouldn't call a black person "nigg#r" with the intent to insult them, then yes I totally agree. That is a horrible thing to say. If you also say that a black person can call their friend "nigg#r" and it is ok. They you aren't condemning the word, you are condemning the use of the word in a certain context. If you say there is no context in which a non-black person can say "nigg*r" without it being a horrible thing, but there is a context in which a black person can use the word, then you are saying there is one activity that is ok for one group of people to do, and the same activity is not ok for another group of people to do.

In the past they had this same opinion. They though it was only ok for white people to vote, and not black people. We call that opinion racist. Saying white people can never say "nigg*r" simple because they are white IS racism.

Just be logically consistent.

Thank you wejo, I appreciate the support. Please don't let the mods delete this thread. This is the most important issue of our time.

I believe certain groups are trying to use the racist tension in this country to destroy the country. They are not trying to heal the wound, they are trying to exacerbate it. It may not look like it on the surface, but I'm the one desperately trying to battle racism. Many people have been tricked into thinking they are against racism, while they are actively judging people based on their race. There could be another civil war if this argument is not resolved.

So you think it's basically like "Voldemort" or "abra-cadabra."

Because if its "creation," is has magical powers to subjugate black people. It must be weird to think black people are so frail, that a mere word can subjugate them.

But I guess because I disagree with you regarding the free use of language, that I'm one of those people who "resonate" with racism. Nice argument.

And by the way, I know its not any other word like cancer. Cancer is way worse. Cancer is killing way more people right now, than slavery.