1) Water's "level" appears flat because of the giant size of the Earth and its effectively zero (but not actually zero!) local curvature. That does not mean it is flat. I think I've explained this to you before, maybe in just about every post I've made in this thread.
2)Because the force of gravity exerted by the Earth is greater than that exerted on the water by the ball. (You may notice that some water will adhere to the surface of the ball because surface tension is stronger than gravity.)
We can settle the satellite & flat earth argument this way. Flip the Hubble telescope around and have it record pics of the earth in real-time and have it programmed to view to a certain landmark or building or even a person who can share it live via video link. Better yet, point the Hubble to Australia and prove it with live video and pics that people or cars or buildings or bridges are indeed standing almost upside down.
Do that and if we see a globe and things are indeed upside down or sideways, then I will bow out forever.[/quote]
That guys name is Hubble. Everything he sees is upside down. He's in Australia. True story.
Oh crap. Paris is upside down too. Maybe the earth is flat, and we are all underneath it.
moran detector goes Beep! Beep! wrote:
Sand Dunes wrote:
Well, no because I don't believe in gravity. The reason why we fall back to the ground is that we are denser than air. Not because of gravity which does not exist.
....and this is your local libertarian advocate.
gotta admire the commitment to stupidity though......rare to see someone go full-on balls deep like that
I guess in your ideal fascist society I would be sent to a reeducation camp. What's wrong for advocating and believing in life, liberty and property? For having principles? For being logically consistent? For believing in the non-agression principle and self-ownership?
moran detector goes Beep! Beep! wrote:
Sand Dunes, the challenge still stands: Answer the Polaris question in your own words.
To be honest I don't see how this proves a globe or a flat earth. Can you explain to me how it proves the globe?
Sand Dunes wrote:
moran detector goes Beep! Beep! wrote:
....and this is your local libertarian advocate.
gotta admire the commitment to stupidity though......rare to see someone go full-on balls deep like that
I guess in your ideal fascist society I would be sent to a reeducation camp. What's wrong for advocating and believing in life, liberty and property? For having principles? For being logically consistent? For believing in the non-agression principle and self-ownership?
I wasn't attacking Libertarianism, I was attacking the moran waving it's flag. You damage the cause of libertarianism by being it's champion while also denying the existence of gravity. That was my point. Sorry I don't have a cheesey youtube video to illustrate the point.
Sand Dunes wrote:
moran detector goes Beep! Beep! wrote:
Sand Dunes, the challenge still stands: Answer the Polaris question in your own words.
To be honest I don't see how this proves a globe or a flat earth. Can you explain to me how it proves the globe?
as you move around to the other side of the ball your view of some of the stars is blocked by the ball.
ok, your turn.
yawntown wrote:
morangatang wrote:
so what you are saying, in short, is that you can't explain it.
I watched one of your videos already and found it worthless. Why waste time on another? I want to hear it in your own words.
If you can explain it then I will watch the video.
I have hunch you don't even understand the nonsense you spout.
He can’t explain it in his own words.
Came back 4 pages later and he still can’t explain it in his own words.
They cry “ad hominem” because they forget that they were already summarily taken to task intellectually on previous threads and we’ve no interest in repeating it.
To perpetuate such a con so many people would have to be involved that it wouldn't remain a secret for very long. People get angry because they feel unappreciated, don't receive a promotion, and for many other reasons. Then they blow the whistle. T
Coach J46 wrote:
To perpetuate such a con so many people would have to be involved that it wouldn't remain a secret for very long. People get angry because they feel unappreciated, don't receive a promotion, and for many other reasons. Then they blow the whistle. T
exactly
and what is exactly the supposed benefit of the con? To help our dark overlords maintain a monopoly on the shipping lanes for soul crystals?
The biggest threat to our world is the lack of education.
mooranker wrote:
The biggest threat to our world is the lack of education.
yes.....and the lizard people.
Here is a picture of the Chicago skyline from the Lake Michigan shoreline in Indiana. Growing up in Indiana, I saw the skyline of Chicago over Lake Michigan many times. What's interesting in that you can't see the bottom of the skyscrapers or even the shorter buildings. Do you know why? Because the Earth curves and things on the horizon become less visible, or not even visible. Even if you had good binoculars, you could not see the bottom of the buildings. If the Earth was flat, you could see the bottom of the buildings with some good binocs.
Gravity is amazing. Curiosity about things we don't completely understand is amazing. Don't give up on gravity, brosephs.
vivalarepublica wrote:
Here is a picture of the Chicago skyline from the Lake Michigan shoreline in Indiana. Growing up in Indiana, I saw the skyline of Chicago over Lake Michigan many times. What's interesting in that you can't see the bottom of the skyscrapers or even the shorter buildings. Do you know why? Because the Earth curves and things on the horizon become less visible, or not even visible. Even if you had good binoculars, you could not see the bottom of the buildings. If the Earth was flat, you could see the bottom of the buildings with some good binocs.
Gravity is amazing. Curiosity about things we don't completely understand is amazing. Don't give up on gravity, brosephs.
Oops, forgot the photo.
vivalarepublica wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:
Here is a picture of the Chicago skyline from the Lake Michigan shoreline in Indiana. Growing up in Indiana, I saw the skyline of Chicago over Lake Michigan many times. What's interesting in that you can't see the bottom of the skyscrapers or even the shorter buildings. Do you know why? Because the Earth curves and things on the horizon become less visible, or not even visible. Even if you had good binoculars, you could not see the bottom of the buildings. If the Earth was flat, you could see the bottom of the buildings with some good binocs.
Gravity is amazing. Curiosity about things we don't completely understand is amazing. Don't give up on gravity, brosephs.
Oops, forgot the photo.
Darnit, here it is.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4f/38/76/4f38760d38104a1747427be7f716a964--indiana-cities-chicago-skyline.jpgyawntown wrote:
yawntown wrote:
He can’t explain it in his own words.
Came back 4 pages later and he still can’t explain it in his own words.
They cry “ad hominem” because they forget that they were already summarily taken to task intellectually on previous threads and we’ve no interest in repeating it.
sometimes the only way to make a moran be quiet is to ask them for their own thoughts.
"bbbuttt I gotzzzz this link right here......"
mooranker wrote:
The biggest threat to our world is the lack of education.
It gave us the snowflakes.
Education is generally tilted left, not objectively presenting facts and teaching critical thinking.
Remove ideology and political motivations and seek knowledge, not power.
Legit question wrote:
no not really wrote:
No, but it does mean you're a paranoid moron.
Name calling is NOT an argument. Present evidence to counter the flat earth, please. People like you are victims of "scientism."
Scientism is theoretical science which have no actual proofs (except in mathematical equations) but are purely speculative. And the speculative is littered with a lot of propaganda which has taken over the observable and rational science which we can test, see, hear and smell.
Flat earthers have done countless experiments to back up the Flat earth theory. You can find these experiments and tests all over youtube. What have ball earthers done to prove their position? Nothing- they only parrot what they have been indoctrinated with and hurl insults. That's not good enough.
Try harder, ball believers.
+1
the best people to tell you what happened are, astronauts, guys from nasa, guys that leaked, like the astronauts themselves, mind you, you need to hear what they have to say off the record, not spouting off the party line.
the moon missions, they definitely went to the moon, but what they did was classified, the TV mainstream stuff is dog and pony show, the real stuff, the real nasa is black, classified and completely out of the horizon of the public domain.
in fact, most of everything in the public domain is scripted, watered down, dogshiit.
that's why so many photos, "moon" rocks (from arizona), flags blowing around (on the moon), and many other gaffs are there for all to see.
for sure, to be an astronaut, to be directly exposed to another dimension of this reality, is mind blowing, and these guys, certainly had their mind's altered.
we're talking off the grid, breakaway civilization, another layer beyond the shadow government.
this is where the extra 22 trillion missing in the US Gov. books is going.
that's why, despite innovations that make society tens to hundreds of times more efficient over the horse and buggy era have resulted in little to no gains for much of the population..
it's a scam.
jedi master yoda wrote:
Legit question wrote:
1) You are relying on NASA and CGI in text books.
2) I have refrained from insults and I expect the same in return
3) There is no experiment that supports gravity "bending" bodies of water. The only "bending" you observe is from text books, CGI and cartoon images on Google.
1) No, placing two sticks in the ground a known distance apart and using basic trigonometry does not require me to believe anything NASA tells me. No CGI, no photoshop, no fisheye lenses. So does looking at the night sky and noting that I can't see Polaris. It's still unclear why they would want me to believe this, but w/e.
2) Quit being stupid and I'll quit calling you stupid.
3) That is literally how gravity works. Bodies of water follow the curve of the Earth because that is the configuration with the least gravitational potential energy. This is why you see the mast of a ship over the horizon before anything else. Since gravity points toward the center of the Earth, we don't need to worry about the water falling in to space for the same reason people can live on Australia. This is middle school science.
The Sun is a sphere too. Same principles apply there: Gravity pulls the gases that make it up toward a common center. This leads to a sphere(more or less). Do you also believe the sun is flat? What about all the moons of planets with liquid on their surface? What about Jupiter or Saturn? Are they all flat too?
There is no experiment done to prove bodies of water curving/bending. You only see it from composite photos & CGI depictions. Instead of looking up in the sky, focus on what's on the ground, what is observable and what can be tested. It's the scientific method, which globe earthers never use , never do experiments to prove a ball, but only repeat the indoctrination from textbooks that we all read.
The Sun and planetary bodies are not being debated here. No experiment has ever shown bodies of mass exerting a gravitational pull on another.
You can't explain why the horizon remains flat, you can't explain why the Chicago skyline can be seen from over 50 miles way on Lake Michigan. Flat earthers have done experiments to prove our theories. You can't even explain why NASA admits that we can't fly through the Van Allen radiation belts today, when we were easily able to do it several times with 1960's technology.
Instead of you asking the questions it's time you ball earthers start answering ours. Your defense is weak and quoting textbooks is not science either.
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