High School Coaches your top 7 this coming fall how would this group do in your state?

in my state this team would be considered godly and would wipe us all off the trails

It's a state team but not a podium team.

My first thought was how does someone run 438 933?

Texas HS Coach wrote:

It's a state team but not a podium team.

My first thought was how does someone run 438 933?

Even better it was 4:48/9:33.

honest injun wrote:

Texas HS Coach wrote:

It's a state team but not a podium team.

My first thought was how does someone run 438 933?

Even better it was 4:48/9:33.

Kid probably runs a 2:25 800m too, right?

Slo Farah wrote:

honest injun wrote:

Even better it was 4:48/9:33.

Kid probably runs a 2:25 800m too, right?

2:25/4:48/9:33 (on pure hate)

honest injun wrote:

Texas HS Coach wrote:

It's a state team but not a podium team.

My first thought was how does someone run 438 933?

Even better it was 4:48/9:33.

Maybe the kid hasn't run a 1600m in a while. Maybe the kid only runs the 1600m at dual meets where he's also running the 4X800, 3200m, and 4X400. The fact that the kid's PR is 4:38 doesn't necessarily mean that he's not capable of running faster than that. It just means that hasn't yet.

timtam wrote:

The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k

Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior

Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior

Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore

Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior

Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior

Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman

Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior

Thoughts?

Is this just a humble-brag about your team?

I like this thread. And wow that’s a strong group. Top 3 at state or bust.

The best top 7 I was ever a part of looked like this, by 5k at regionals:

15:51

16:57

16:59

16:59

17:02

17:35

18:14

timtam wrote:

The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k

Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior

Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior

Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore

Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior

Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior

Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman

Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior

Thoughts?

Nice humblebrag.

Also I'm most certain those are made up. here are your options just based on a 4:07 1600 runner:

4:08.13 DANIEL MATON Camas High School

4:08.32 MATTHEW PAYAMPS NY Saint Anthony's

4:08.82 DREW BOSLEY WI Homestead

4:08.86 SEAN DOLAN NJ Hopewell Valley HS

Those are all miles with Bosley and Dolan the only 1600 conversions to 4:07. Their teams are pretty bad. Maton's Camas High School is probably the best incoming team out of this pack, but still probably looking for a 3rd-4th best finish in WA if things go well.

lots of possibilities wrote:

honest injun wrote:

Even better it was 4:48/9:33.

Maybe the kid hasn't run a 1600m in a while. Maybe the kid only runs the 1600m at dual meets where he's also running the 4X800, 3200m, and 4X400. The fact that the kid's PR is 4:38 doesn't necessarily mean that he's not capable of running faster than that. It just means that hasn't yet.

He's a senior who ran 4:48. In 4 years he hasn't had the opportunity to get in a 1600? There are not lots of possibilities. He cranked out that 9:33 on pure hate.

I coached a team with guys with the following prs:

1:51, 4:07 - senior

4:20 - senior

4:22 - senior

4:24 - senior

4:40 - soph

4:50 - senior

4:51- soph

We won the big division cc that year. Top 4 guys were all between 15:40 - 15:50. 5th guy was mid 16s.

Our team has

4:30-9:35

4:29-9:50

4:35-9:55

4:37-9:57

4:40-9:58

4:44-10:02

We probably won’t win state but would be about even with you team.

a few corrections 4th runner has 4:28/9:33 PR.

Sorry about typo late night watching world cup final.

Here are my top girls squad 800/1600/3200/5k PR's

Runner 1 2:11/4:52 senior

Runner 2 11:10/18:35 senior

Runner 3 5:07/11:10/ 18:30 freshman

Runner 4 5:20/19:15 freshman

Runner 5 5:17/ 19:30 junior

The rest of the girls are 8th graders.

Fifth runner would be too far back... Third or fourth.

timtam wrote:

a few corrections 4th runner has 4:28/9:33 PR.

Sorry about typo late night watching world cup final.

Here are my top girls squad 800/1600/3200/5k PR's

Runner 1 2:11/4:52 senior

Runner 2 11:10/18:35 senior

Runner 3 5:07/11:10/ 18:30 freshman

Runner 4 5:20/19:15 freshman

Runner 5 5:17/ 19:30 junior

The rest of the girls are 8th graders.

I've always thought it was unfair that in some states the 8th graders can train with the high schoolers. I think it's why some states always do well at NXN.

That's an awfully fast incoming freshman.

timtam wrote:

The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k

Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior

Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior

Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore

Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior

Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior

Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman

Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior

Thoughts?

Here we go again with using track times for XC. Tell me their 5k times and the courses and I’ll tell you your fate.

Yes my group of boys are much stronger as i have two more boys that have PR's in the 16's.

Yes getting athletes early is key for long term development. Top boy has been training with me since 5th grade. His progression has been steady and he did run 4:20 as sophmore.

If you read closely that I was up late watching WC finals you will realise the rules are a little different here.

Must be in Asia/Australia since the WC final would have been in the morning anywhere in the US, and early evening in Western Europe. We would eat your lunch in CA. Just saying.